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[Catholic Caucus] German seminary rector says he allows openly homosexual men to enter, become priests
LifeSite News ^ | February 9, 2024 | Michael Haynes

Posted on 02/11/2024 11:01:37 AM PST by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] German seminary rector says he allows openly homosexual men to enter, become priests

Fr. Wolfgang Lehner of Munich’s Seminary of St. John Baptist admitted that he accepts public homosexuals as seminarians and priests, directly contradicting the position of the Catholic Church.

The rector of the Catholic seminary in Munich has said that he allows openly homosexual men to enter the seminary and be consecrated as priests, contrary to the teaching of the Universal Church. 

When asked in an interview by the local news outlet Münchner Kirchenzeitung how he deals with candidates who are openly homosexual, Fr. Wolfgang Lehner said, “It is not a question of only preparing ideal candidates for the ideal priestly ministry.” 

“Sexuality is always a part of the personality, an aspect of it,” he stated. 

“We judge and accompany people as a whole person. That’s why I find it difficult to say: ‘No, someone is not at all suitable because they are homosexual’ or ‘someone is suitable because they are homosexual.’ When someone comes to me, introduces themselves, and says: ‘By the way, I’m homosexual,’ I first try to assess this in the context of the applicant’s overall profile.” 

“How does he present himself, how does he show himself? If we have decided to take him [into the seminary], then we look at how present, how topical this issue is.” 

“But if I notice that I’m looking at a coherent personality who can put things into perspective, someone who has healthy relationships with men and women, who doesn’t have to constantly address their sexual orientation, then I wouldn’t say a priori that they can’t be consecrated, because this is about a larger complexity,” Lehner concluded. 

When asked by the Münchner Kirchenzeitung if “the mere fact of being homosexual” excludes someone from ordination to the priesthood, Lehner replied: “The positive criterion for me is: can someone build healthy and good relationships with men and women, do we have a reasonable assumption that this will last a lifetime?” 

In an instruction from 2005, signed by Pope Benedict XVI, the Congregation for Catholic Education reiterated the Church’s position that men with “deep-seated homosexual tendencies” cannot be admitted to seminary or Holy Orders. 

The instruction states that “this Dicastery, in accord with the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, believes it necessary to state clearly that the Church, while profoundly respecting the persons in question, cannot admit to the seminary or to holy orders those who practice homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called ‘gay culture.’” 

“Such persons, in fact, find themselves in a situation that gravely hinders them from relating correctly to men and women,” the instruction continues. “One must in no way overlook the negative consequences that can derive from the ordination of persons with deep-seated homosexual tendencies.” 

In the case of homosexual tendencies that are “only the expression of a transitory problem,” such as “of an adolescence not yet superseded,” the document states that “such tendencies must be clearly overcome at least three years before ordination to the diaconate.”

The criterion expressed by Fr. Lehner for someone to be admitted to Holy Orders is that this person “doesn’t have to constantly address their sexual orientation.” Lehner did not state that these men would have to overcome any homosexual tendencies and live chastely in order to receive the Sacrament of Holy Orders.

The rector of the seminary in Munich said that if a candidate who admitted to being homosexual “has healthy relationships with men and women” and a “coherent personality,” he could be consecrated. These statements directly contradict the instruction from the Congregation for Catholic Education, which states that people with deep-seated homosexual tendencies “find themselves in a situation that gravely hinders them from relating correctly to men and women.” 

The seminary of St. John the Baptist in Munich belongs to the jurisdiction of Cardinal Reinhard Marx, the archbishop of the Archdiocese of Munich and Freising. Marx was the head of the German Bishops’ Conference from 2014 until 2020 and is a staunch proponent and leader of the heretical, pro-homosexual Synodal Way.

READ: German Synodal Way approves text calling homosexual acts ‘not sinful’ and ‘not intrinsically evil’ 

In 2022, the German bishops adopted a new Church labor law that allows Church employees to openly live in situations contrary to Catholic moral teaching, i.e., homosexual or “re-married” relationships. The Synodal Way approved a document in September 2022 stating that homosexual acts are “not a sin” and “not intrinsically evil,” in explicit contradiction to Catholic teaching. Forty of the 56 German bishops (71%) voted in favor of the text that proposes a reversal of Church teaching on homosexuality. 


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: excommunicated; frankenchurch; germans; homofascism; homopriests; lataesententiae; reinhardmarx; satanism; sexualpredator; wolfganglehner
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As long as those homo seminarians aren't trained in the seminary to offer the Traditional Latin Mass, Francis will turn a blind eye.

After all, who is he to judge?

1 posted on 02/11/2024 11:01:37 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

Ping


2 posted on 02/11/2024 11:02:09 AM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Men like this have gravely wounded the Catholic Church.


3 posted on 02/11/2024 11:03:45 AM PST by PGR88
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To: ebb tide

From the sixties many of the seminaries were captured by homosexual priests who got themselves placed as headmen in them. They would reject young men who weren’t of their own sort.-Spirit of Vatican ll and all that. Once they get to be in charge of an org they skew recruitment and acceptance of postulants. JPll started to lever some of them out of their positions but it didn’t go far enough.


4 posted on 02/11/2024 11:30:01 AM PST by arthurus ( covfefe fe)
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To: ebb tide

I have wondered about Bergoglio himself.


5 posted on 02/11/2024 11:30:59 AM PST by arthurus ( covfefe Sn)
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To: arthurus
From the sixties many of the seminaries were captured by homosexual priests who got themselves placed as headmen in them. They would reject young men who weren’t of their own sort.-Spirit of Vatican ll and all that. Once they get to be in charge of an org they skew recruitment and acceptance of postulants. JPll started to lever some of them out of their positions but it didn’t go far enough.

Purely anecdotal observation here. I am under the impression that this infection (East SF Bay Area) is around the major churches and those close to college campuses, and generally skips the smaller churches and possibly also the priories.

6 posted on 02/11/2024 11:38:55 AM PST by thecodont
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To: ebb tide

Captain Obvious smiles and winks.


8 posted on 02/11/2024 11:54:56 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: ebb tide

How do they prove they are openly homosexual? Does he have a little demo?


9 posted on 02/11/2024 11:56:28 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: babble-on

The “open” part is the only thing new here


10 posted on 02/11/2024 11:57:02 AM PST by bigbob
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To: arthurus

That sort of admissions/hiring practice isn’t limited to seminaries.


11 posted on 02/11/2024 11:57:16 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: babble-on

The article doesn’t say whether he discriminates between the two. “Openly” covers a lot of ground, and one must ask how he requires them to demonstrate their “openness.” And whether or not he provides volunteers to aid in the demo.


12 posted on 02/11/2024 11:59:13 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: ebb tide

Does this son of satan want MORE abused boys?

Because this is how you get more abused boys...


13 posted on 02/11/2024 12:00:08 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: DPMD

When they proudly announce they are out and proud.

Anymore stupid questions?


14 posted on 02/11/2024 12:00:12 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: babble-on

No.

Open or closeted, putting a faggot in a position of power or authority with respect to children (particularly boys) will result in more sexual abuse of children (particularly boys).


15 posted on 02/11/2024 12:02:37 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: babble-on

I thought the point is that being a priest is such a commitment that you are literally “married to The Church.”


17 posted on 02/11/2024 12:06:19 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ebb tide

Do they have to be celibate or does that only apply to straight men?


18 posted on 02/11/2024 12:43:24 PM PST by dixie1202
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To: ebb tide

German Catholic leaders should be ignored. They are in charge of a puny and shrinking number of Catholics. They are failures.
African Catholic leaders otoh grow their flocks. They attract people away from Islam. They are the real deal,


19 posted on 02/11/2024 1:55:20 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: married21

After JPII, Cardinal Arinze was my choice for Pope.


20 posted on 02/11/2024 1:55:56 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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