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The Growing Need to Condemn Vatican II’s Errors So We Can Combat Francis’s Heresies
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | December 27, 2023 | Robert Morrison

Posted on 12/27/2023 2:43:51 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: Zionist Conspirator
ZC Why not say the same about the priests who re-enact that sacrifice so many times? Are they "deicides" too?

Catholic/Orthodox/Coptic etc. priests don't "re-enact" the sacrifice. The sacrifice is a one-time sacrifice that we view the High Priest and Sacrifice who are One and the Same, Jesus Christ

The minister priests aren't "re-enacting" anything, the High Priest, Jesus, is offering Himself as the sacrifice in that One-time event that we participate in and worship and adore the Lamb

181 posted on 02/19/2024 7:15:30 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos

You’re going Clintonian now. You’re losing the argument when you resort to this tactic.


182 posted on 02/19/2024 7:16:59 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Cronos
So you get to decide which councils you like and don’t like?? Kinda like your fellow Roman Catholic who post multiple daily posts against y’all’s pope.

I posted the council’s ruling to show how the group that claims to never change has changed. The anti-semitism of Rome is well known.

183 posted on 02/19/2024 7:19:27 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Zionist Conspirator; af_vet_1981
ZC apply to the "predecessor" religion, which would be the new religion's most serious competitor.

Rabbinical Judaism is not the predecessor religion to Christianity

Both "Christianity" and "Pharisee Judaism" are SISTER religions.

In fact what we call Judaism today is "Rabbinic Judaism" and is YOUNGER than Christianity.

So, the religion that you joined, ZC, isn't the predecessor of Christianity, but derived from a competing 2nd temple sect of 2nd temple Judaism i.e. the Pharisee sect of 2nd temple Judaism

184 posted on 02/19/2024 7:21:56 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; af_vet_1981
ZC I am glad to have seen the light and become a Noahide. This means I believe there is only one religion (Judaism/Noahism) to which all mankind is statutorily obligated which will outlast all other religions and eventually be universally acknowledged. Straight-up Theocracy, no liberalism, "tolerance," or "democracy" involved.

Which makes you similar to the "converts to Judaism" that we read about in the book of the Acts of the Apostles.

And nearly all of those Noahides then rejected rabbinical Judaism in favor of Jesus-movement Judaism.

185 posted on 02/19/2024 7:23:39 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Elsie

Seventh Day Adventists, or their sister Millerite sect, the Jehovah’s witnesses are not Protestants, they aren’t Christians.

If you are a seventh Day Adventist, you believe that Jesus is the archangel Michael - that makes you a non-Christian like a Mormon


186 posted on 02/19/2024 7:25:34 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: ealgeone
Nope, I didn't say that in post #172 - did you read?

You made an inane statement that "most Catholics aren't aware of the statements of a council in 1215" to which I replied -- most people are not aware of a council in 1215 that was not on dogma.

Even you weren't aware of this until you tried to look for a bazinga

187 posted on 02/19/2024 7:27:30 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: ealgeone
No, a Clintonian (a Baptist I believe), would not have read Lumen Gentium

You made a nonsensical statement that "the council was a dogma"

That doesn't even make any sense - a council discusses dogma, the council itself isn't dogma

Is English your first language?

188 posted on 02/19/2024 7:28:54 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: ebb tide

I never refer to that creature as “Pope” or “Francis”. I call him Bergoglio the heretic Marxist. And I am not even Catholic. The two popes immediately before him were good Christians and Orthodox Catholics. I think Obama and Soros
had a hand in selecting Bergoglio.


189 posted on 02/19/2024 7:29:35 AM PST by ZULU (DUMP RONA ROMNEY MCDANIELS!!!)
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To: ealgeone

No, I’m not justifying a wrong — you are trying (and failing) at your reductio ad hitlerum.

In the 1930s gathering up people and gassing them was wrong by the standards of the 1930s. Heck, massacring people en masse was wrong even in the 1200s which is why the Khwarezm envoys were appalled at the destruction of Beijing in 1211 and the Georgians were appalled at the leveling of Merv.

In the 1930s, the Nutzis actions were appalling even by the 1930s sensibilities.

In the 1200s people wore and were made to wear different clothes to signify their position in society - yeomen wore different clothes than nobility.

By today’s standards those are appaling. By the 1200s, not so much.

I take it that you are one of those woke people who want to cancel George Washington, right?


190 posted on 02/19/2024 7:34:49 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: ealgeone; metmom

Actually, it was the Reformatters like Calvin and Luther who tortured and put to death other reformatters like Servetus or the Anabaptists.

And there were quite a few Catholics put to death by Calvinists, Anglicans, Lutherans etc.

These murders by all sides were wrong - by today’s standards and also by the standards of their own day and even more so by Christ’s standards.


191 posted on 02/19/2024 7:44:39 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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To: Cronos
You are wrong on your assertion as you’ve been on this entire topic.

You wrongly, or knowingly falsely claimed, all the church believed in transubstantiation and gave a reference to support your erroneous claim. However, I read the source. And it doesn’t support your claim. In fact it contradicts it.

Right there you disqualified yourself and any subsequent arguments you tried to make.

192 posted on 02/19/2024 7:50:36 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Cronos

I’ve been aware of the Council’s rulings for some time now. My point is correct that the vast majority of RCs aren’t aware of what their denomination teaches. This council is but one example.


193 posted on 02/19/2024 8:38:07 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Cronos

Your ignorance of other denominations is astounding.


194 posted on 02/19/2024 8:47:10 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I’d think you could take out denominations and be accurate. He doesn’t even know his own denomination!


195 posted on 02/19/2024 8:50:10 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“He doesn’t even know his own denomination!”

He doesn’t even think his denomination IS a denomination. LOL!


196 posted on 02/19/2024 8:53:47 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Fraud vitiates everything." - SCOTUS)
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To: Cronos

Are you willing to dismiss the other Lateran Councils as well….or just the bits and pieces you don’t like and that are unfavorable to Roman Catholicism??


197 posted on 02/19/2024 8:56:59 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

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198 posted on 02/19/2024 1:07:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone

Out of the abundance of the heart; the mouth speaks.


199 posted on 02/19/2024 1:09:37 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cronos
-- as Jesus said in Matthew 26:26 this is my body.” - not "this is in the symbol of my Body" nor "this is bread but assume it to be my body" but clearly "this IS My Body"

Dang, TWO bodies in one setting!


Joseph Smith would be proud!

200 posted on 02/19/2024 1:11:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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