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Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer’s plot to ruin Christmas, and America
Religion News Service ^ | December 7, 2023 | Bob Smietana

Posted on 12/11/2023 7:05:01 PM PST by Morgana

(RNS) — Andrew Torba, an ultraconservative web commentator, turned on the radio a few weeks ago and discovered a secret war on Christmas.

Not the one fought by “libs” on the sides of Starbucks cups or in city buses’ destination displays reading “Happy Holidays,” but by Rudolph, Frosty and a few mostly deceased Jewish songwriters.

In a Nov. 21 episode of his “Parallel Christian Society Podcast,” Torba, founder of the alt-right social media platform Gab and co-author of “Christian Nationalism: A Biblical Guide For Taking Dominion and Discipling Nations,” expressed his dismay at learning that many popular Christmas songs were written by American Jews.

Drawing mainly from a review of “A Kosher Christmas” in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz dating to 2012, Torba recounted how many of the season’s most popular songs — “White Christmas,” “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer,” “Let it Snow” and “A Holly Jolly Christmas,” to name a few —were written by Jews.

Those songs, Torba claimed, were part of a conspiracy to kick Christ out of Christmas that turned a celebration of the birth of Jesus into a winter holiday with room for Jews. “Knowing this, how could you allow your household to be filled with this music?” Tobra asked his listeners.

Torba’s suspicions were also raised when he found that, along with ruining Christmas, Jews in America celebrate Hanukkah and that American presidents have acknowledged that Jewish holiday.

“Wow, incredible, incredible, how this happened,” he said. “In a Christian nation, it takes this relatively minor Jewish holiday and turns it into this prominent holiday that is celebrated in our White House. Isn’t that something?”

Asked about his podcast, Torba cited the Haaretz article, which quoted the late American novelist Philip Roth describing “White Christmas” as a song that took Christ out of Christmas.

“People who hate and reject Jesus Christ, and whose faith and identity centers around that rejection, wrote subversive songs to ‘de-Christ’ Christmas,” he said in an email. “This is a problem and Christians deserve to know about it so they can adjust their listening habits during the Christmas season accordingly.”

Jonathan Sarna, professor of American Jewish history at Brandeis University, suggested Christian nationalists such as Torba might want to do a little reading about American history. Firstly, he pointed out, Christmas was not really a part of America’s founding. “The Puritans were opposed to Christmas,” Sarna said.

In 1659, leaders of the Massachusetts Bay Colony approved the “Penalty for Keeping Christmas,” which imposed fines on those who feasted or refused to work on the holiday. It wasn’t until German immigrants brought Santa Claus, Christmas trees and songs like “Silent Night” with them that Americans took up Christmas with gusto. (Christmas Day itself did not become a federal holiday until 1870.)

Sarna said that the songs written by Jewish songwriters fit into the American tradition of celebrating Christmas as a seasonal celebration, rather than a religious one. “They are more in the tradition of Dickens’ ‘A Christmas Carol’ than in the tradition of ‘Silent Night,’” he said.

Jonathan Karp, who teaches history and Jewish studies at Binghamton University, said there’s no conspiracy involved with the success of Jewish writers of Christmas carols. Jewish songsmiths such as Irving Berlin wrote Christmas songs thinking Americans’ popular performers wanted them.

Karp said many Jews worked in Tin Pan Alley, the collection of songwriters and publishers that flourished in midtown Manhattan from the late 1800s to the mid-1990s, as well as in the theaters and venues where live music was performed.

Before records came into fashion, those songwriters made their money from sales of sheet music, said Karp. One way to sell sheet music was to get popular entertainers to sing them. When the holidays rolled around, those entertainers needed Christmas songs to sing. So Jewish Tin Pan Alley songwriters wrote them.

Karp also suggested that songs like “White Christmas” were a way for Jewish songwriters to participate in Christmas — even though the religious holiday is not their own.

“I would even go as far as saying it’s about feeling the spirit of Christmas,” he said.

Writing Christmas carols isn’t the only way Jewish Americans played a role in holiday tradition. Albert Sadacca, whose Jewish family emigrated from Turkey, helped develop electric Christmas lights and helped found one of the largest Christmas light manufacturers in America.

Devin Naar, associate professor of Jewish studies at the University of Washington in Seattle, who has studied Sadacca’s part in popularizing Christmas lights, said that Christmas has become an icon of America almost as much as Uncle Sam or the Stars and Stripes. Even if they don’t celebrate Christmas, Jews have helped write this chapter of the American story.

Naar pointed to a Sephardic proverb found in the Ladino dialect spoken by Jewish immigrants from the Muslim world (like Sadacca), which translates, “Let me enter, and I’ll make a place for myself.”

Whether writing Christmas songs or creating Christmas tree lights, Jews found a way to show that they belonged in America, at a time when their fellow Americans viewed them with suspicion. In a 2022 essay for The Washington Post, Naar pointed out that Calvin Coolidge — the president who presided over the first lighting of the national Christmas tree — favored harsh immigration reforms.

“America must be kept American,” Coolidge said in his first address to the nation, a few weeks before that tree lighting. By American, Coolidge meant “white Christian people, preferably Protestants,” said Naar.

The following year, Coolidge signed legislation that barred Jews and non-Europeans from immigrating to the U.S.

In the following decades, Americans became more open to those who had once been outsiders, said Naar. The Christmas carols written by Jews helped make that happen. Yet American Jews remain ambivalent about holiday traditions such as Christmas trees.

After all, there’s no way to take Christianity out of the holiday. “At the end of the day, the name of the holiday is still Christmas,” said Naar.

If Torba’s defense of Christmas is neither particularly American nor particularly religious, his antisemitism is in keeping with the ideology he espouses, Christian nationalism.

Data from a 2020 national survey found a relationship between Christian nationalism — the idea that America belongs to Christians and that Christians should run the country — and antisemitism. The more that Americans believed in Christian nationalism, the more they supported antisemitic claims that Jews have too much power in America and around the world.

“It’s a function of what psychologists call a social dominance orientation,” said Paul Djupe, associate professor of political science at Denison University. “They think that there’s a rightful order of things and that Christians should be on top.”

Despite the anger of Christian nationalism, Sarna doubted that many people know the religion of Christmas carol writers. Or care what they believe.

Most people who sing Christmas carols, he said, just want to sing their favorites.

“‘White Christmas’ remains one of the most popular Christmas carols,” he said. “People think it comes from the time of Jesus — not from Irving Berlin.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: andrewtorba; antisemitism; christmassongs
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To: Morgana

SINGING ABOUT THE GOD OF ISRAEL, AND THE INCARNITE JEWISH YESHUA. Torba is replacment Theology Central.


21 posted on 12/11/2023 7:44:26 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: Morgana

Joy to the world sounds like it could be a department store jingle.


22 posted on 12/11/2023 7:54:54 PM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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To: NorthMountain

I never heard of him till now


23 posted on 12/11/2023 7:56:42 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Well, yes, but you can’t say that secular Christmas songs are a new development. They’ve been with us for 60 years or more. This isn’t breaking news.


24 posted on 12/11/2023 7:58:26 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Morgana

He runs a ‘social media’ site called “gab”, that originated back when Twitter was owned by communists ... it’s a truly “free speech” site; just about anything goes, there.


25 posted on 12/11/2023 8:00:31 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain
...Same as the fellow responsible for Spring, Summer, Fall...

Sounds like we need to respect him year round no matter where we live!

26 posted on 12/11/2023 8:00:56 PM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: Nateman

Replacing His birthday with commercialized secular pseudo-nostalgia isn’t particularly respectful.


27 posted on 12/11/2023 8:03:02 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: ZChief

“Baby It’s Cold Outside” is a wicked song.


28 posted on 12/11/2023 8:25:03 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Morgana

“of course they are!”

You seriously believe White Christmas is anti-Christ?

You live in this world today, with all that goes on around us, and you think this?


29 posted on 12/11/2023 9:08:09 PM PST by jocon307
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To: jocon307
You seriously believe White Christmas is anti-Christ?

White Christmas is going to get absolutely trashed in the upcoming years. The title alone is offensive enough, but the movie celebrates Christmas and white supremacy and its music was written by a Jew! These are three ready-made targets all rolled in one.

30 posted on 12/12/2023 1:39:57 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Morgana; SunkenCiv

Why does this Torba character have a problem with Hanukkah? It was good enough for Jesus.

According to John 10:22, Jesus went to the Temple in Jerusalem during the “Festival of Dedication” or the “Festival of Lights.” Those are two names for Hanukkah. He was at least visiting the Temple for THAT holiday.

In those days, the purpose of Hanukkah was to remember the furious rejection of Hellenism by the Maccabees. All the business with dreidels and latkes came along later.

Whatever else you want to say about Jesus, you have to admit He was an observant Jew.


31 posted on 12/12/2023 6:52:46 AM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Berosus

Sounds like he’s got his head up his ass. Naturally, I mean that in the nicest possible way and in keeping with the whole peace on Earth good will towards men thing. :^)


32 posted on 12/12/2023 7:10:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Morgana
Chanukkah is indeed a minor holiday. Its inflation into a major holiday in America came about under the influence of chrstmas.

Chanukkah is, however, older than chrstmas. It was celebrated by J*sus and is mentioned in the "new testament."

Is this Torba guy a Protestant? Why's he celebrating a non-Biblical Catholic holiday that originated with baptized heathenism????????

33 posted on 12/12/2023 8:32:33 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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