Posted on 12/11/2023 11:35:17 AM PST by The Ignorant Fisherman
Just a thought for this Christmas season. One of the greatest myths in all of Christendom is that Mary (Miriam) - the young Jewish girl of king David's line - who gave birth to the Savior of the world was sinless. I myself was taught this as a boy in the Catholic church and it wasn't till I was born again and started reading the Holy Scriptures for myself that I saw the true folly of such a myth. My dear friends, no greater lie could ever be told or fantasy ever believed! When this lie is embraced it derails the total ETERNAL movement of Almighty God and seeks to make the temporal, fallen and mortal the ETERNAL, RIGHTEOUS and DIVINE (Rom. 10:4). Mary herself testified that she rejoiced in Almighty God her Savior and one does not need a Savior if one is not a sinner (Rom. 3:23, 6:23, 10:2-4, Acts 4:12)! If we let the Holy Scriptures of Almighty God and Mary's own personal testimony speak to us then this great fantasy of many can NEVER stand. . Mary herself testified that she rejoiced in Almighty God her Savior and one does not need a Savior if one is not a sinner. . And Mary herself said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For he hath regarded the low estate (to look with pity on her vile condition) of his handmaiden (slave): for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation (St. Luke 1:45-49).
Also the Holy Scriptures tell us that Mary offered a burnt offering and a sin offering for atonement after her purification (Leviticus 12:1-8). If Mary was not a fallen daughter fallen of Adam she would not have needed to offer an offering of sin.
And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord;) And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons (St. Luke 2:22-24).
My dear friends, if you are one who holds to the teaching of the Catholic church on Mary of Nazareth I would like to challenge you to believe Almighty God's Word and receive the biblical position of Mary and that of salvation (John 1:12, Acts 16:28-30, Romans 6:23, 10:2-4, 1 John 5:13). Mary the young maiden - by faith - trusted in Almighty God for her ETERNAL salvation as a young girl before her angelic visitation and little did she know that she would be the vessel of Almighty God to bring forth the perfect body for her Lamb and propitiation of her soul (John 1:29, John 3:16-17, 36, Rom. 10:2-4, 1 John 2:2, 4:10).
Mary the young maiden - by faith - trusted in Almighty God for her ETERNAL salvation as a young girl before her angelic visitation and little did she know that she would be the vessel of Almighty God to bring forth the perfect body for her Lamb and propitiation of her soul.
The first Christmas two thousand years ago - the young Jewish girl of the tribe of Judea - Mary; was trying to comprehend and take in the wonders of the last nine months (Matt. 1, Luke 2:24-80). Mary was highly favored above all women and was given the Divine assignment to prepare the body for the ETERNAL Spirit of the Son of Almighty God (Isa. 9:6-7, Micah 5:2, John 1:12, Heb. 10). The true servant's heart and faith of Mary are to be greatly commended and her exampled followed; but when individuals seek to change her testimony and her witness to fantastic fables they do her and her ETERNAL Savior a great disservice and dishonor.
Mary needed a Savior and believed as the Word of God clearly stated (Lev.). What about you? If Mary was here today she would point you to her God and Savior, the Lord Jesus Messiah to save your soul and give you ETERNAL LIFE (John 3:16-17). What will you do? Will you listen to Biblical Mary or traditional Mary?
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!!
This is going to rile up some Catholics.
Like you, I was taught this and never knew it was a false teaching until I read the Bible for myself.
Merry Christmas.
I'd venture to say neither one. Women have a tendency to roam one's memory banks and alter all the checksum digits.
Mary herself testified that she rejoiced in Almighty God her Savior
Exactly.
one does not need a Savior if one is not a sinner
False. Nobody is "good enough" to save themselves before a perfectly holy God, even if they have never committed a personal sin. (The contrary opinion is the heresy called "Pelagianism".)
Babies have never sinned. Neither have people who are severely mentally handicapped. But neither good is saved simply by virtue of their own personal goodness. They, like us sinners, can only be saved by grace won for us at the Cross. And Mary is the same. That's Catholic teaching.
The Orthodox view:
https://orthochristian.com/92521.html
Nevertheless, She DID need a Savior, Jesus Christ!
Mary Is Blessed
But
Not Coredemptrix.
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Blessings Brothers!
From another viewpoint, some might think that the most immediate ‘savior’ she needed arrived in the form of Joseph...
Here are some resources for the openminded and those who sincerely want to know what the Church actually teaches on this topic. If you don't like the source or don't agree with it because of your prejudices, that's just tough. I don't intend to waste my time arguing and rehashing the pros and cons because I've been on FR a long time and found out that is a fruitless exercise for both sides, especially on this topic which anti-Catholics like to try and make a lot of hay about, especially this time of year as Christmas approaches (predictable every year as the night following the day). However, the truth will set you free if you prayerfully open your minds and hearts. God bless.
Stupid question.
What is more traditional than the Bible?
Other than the words of Christ, many books of the new testament do not even claim to be the inspired words of God.
Nobody even knows who wrote the book of Hebrews.
the only reason why the books of the New Testament are accepted as “Holy Scripture” is because of tradition.
If you accept the New Testament is indeed scripture, you are admitting there was inspired wisdom at least occasionally in the early traditions and teachings of the church.
Just a thought.
Yeah.
According to the “NEW CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA”, the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception “designates the belief that the Virgin Mary was free from ORIGINAL SIN from the very beginning of her life, from her conception.
The rest of mankind inherits a human nature infected with sin . . . But Mary was, by a unique GRACE, preserved from ever contracting original sin.”
Jesus did not single out his mother for special honor, nor did he tell his followers to do so. In fact, outside of the Gospel accounts and a single reference in the book of Acts, Mary is not mentioned in the remaining 22 books of the so-called New Testament.
I’m not sure how I got to it, but I do think God Himself can decide what He is doing/planning with any individual He creates.
I choose to believe Mary was conceived without sin (God can do that, just as He can do all sorts of miracles) because God knew before she was born that she would accept His offer at the time He wanted her to conceive Jesus by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus (God incarnate) could not come through a person with original sin or He would not be sinless.
I do assume Mary, through her life at times, sinned in some way or other since all fall short, and as others said above, we (all people) all need a Savior.
Nice thought; short, brief, to the point and direct! Sweet!
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Well; one is Divinely authoritative while the other is based on half Divinely authoritative truth passed on down by tradition;
Actually; that is a great crossroads question; too hard for some to take in;
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This is why this guy gave up sarcasm decades ago...🙄
Dear friend; You’re free to your opinion and thank you for sharing it me most have a biblical perspective; what is absolutely amazing is that God by passed Adam’s sinful cursed seed and the Holy Ghost supernaturally caused her to conceive; sin came through and is passed down via Adam not through Eve (Rom. 5);
Just an amazing thought that God is the God of the impossible; and the God of Life; Luke 2; Heb. 10)
Try to see it that way then it all makes sense; the seed of the women; Gen 3:15-6)
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Bingo. Yesterday, a thread was posted with a video of an "ex-Catholic" warning evangelicals about the teachings of the Catholic Church. I started to post a reply on what he got wrong, but the comments were locked. He had the same misunderstandings that I had as a child and many people carry into adulthood.
Only the whole Bible is inspired.
Funny, I was just looking into this today, reviewing
- Anselm’s De Conceptu Virginali (here: https://jasper-hopkins.info/DeConceptu.pdf)
- The Battle of Empel (in Dutch here: https://www.vakantiereizenspanje.com/blog/1536171_het-mirakel-van-empel-ook-wel-de-slag-bij-empel-genoemd) and
- Clement XI’s Commissi nobis divinitus (in Latin, here: https://ia800208.us.archive.org/31/items/bullarumdiplomat21cath/bullarumdiplomat21cath_bw.pdf)
It all makes sense to me.
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