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Open Letter to Francis: Why Are You Destroying the Religion of the Saints?
The Remnant Newspaper ^ | November 1, 2023 | Robert Morrison

Posted on 11/02/2023 1:31:26 PM PDT by ebb tide

Open Letter to Francis: Why Are You Destroying the Religion of the Saints?

Dear Francis,

We write to you as fellow sinners, in great need of God’s mercy. In various ways — especially through your Synod on Synodality and persistent opposition to proselytism — you have asked Catholics to have respect for all baptized Christians and their particular religious beliefs. This openness to the religious beliefs of others encourages us to explain our religion to you.

We are Catholics who believe the same truths, and retain the same religious devotions, that all Catholics enjoyed prior to Vatican II. We often call ourselves Traditional Catholics, while others refer to us as rigid and backward.

 

As you know, prior to Vatican II many popes warned against Liberalism and Modernism because they sincerely believed that those ideas would harm Catholics. In general, they told us that “if you accept these errors, certain evil results will occur.” At Vatican II, John XXIII opened the door to ideas that had been condemned by his predecessors. Men like Yves Congar, Augustin Bea, and Henri de Lubac stepped in and persuaded the Council Fathers to accept the previously condemned ideas, many of which were disguised with ambiguity. What happened when Catholics accepted the errors the popes had warned about?

How can you be so very sure that God wills every religion in the world other than the Catholicism of your youth?

For over sixty years, we have seen a proliferation of all the evils in the Church about which the pre-Vatican II popes warned. Some people argue that these developments flow not from changes introduced at Vatican II but from broad societal change. This might be persuasive if it were not for the fact that those Catholics who retain the pre-Vatican II beliefs and practices have not experienced the same evils, at least not to the same extent. It is obvious that the pre-Vatican II popes were correct.

Certainly there are many nominal Catholics who want the Church to adopt the ideas that the popes had always condemned because they do not like what the Church has always said about non-Catholic religions and certain moral issues. But nobody is forced to be a Catholic. Those who do not want to accept what the Church has always taught could freely join one of the countless Protestant churches, or even form their own.

Going back to your opposition to proselytism, we can all understand your basic point, even though it conflicts with Our Lord’s call for us to teach the nations (Matthew 28:19-20). If you really believe that it is evil to try to change a single person’s religious beliefs through talking to them about Catholicism, how can you find it permissible to underhandedly change an entire religion from the inside, while telling believers that nothing has changed? Even a pagan or atheist would find such a devious project to be cruel and unjust, and yet is precisely what the innovators have done to Catholics. You also do this.

If we all need to stop eating meat to save the environment (because cow flatulence is so bad), what do they think nuclear bombs will do to the environment? These are the geniuses you would follow instead of the Church’s saints?

And here is another interesting thing about the Vatican II revolution. The ecumenical spirit obviously encourages all Christians to practice their chosen religion without being persecuted by Rome. You, as the man who represents himself to the world as the pope, would never think of condemning Baptists or Methodists, let alone shutting down their churches or persecuting them. Why, then, do you allow those in your hierarchy to do this to those Christians who happen to call themselves Traditional Catholic? Why, indeed, do you do these things to us?

You praised Blaise Pascal earlier this year and so surely you are familiar with his famous wager, in which he demonstrates how foolish it would be to act as though God did not exist. We can apply his same reasoning to the post-Vatican II ecumenism.

Suppose we all have to make a choice: you must either follow what the Church has always taught and be a Catholic, or else you can adopt any Christian set of beliefs (including Catholicism). If it is true that one must follow what the Church has alway taught to be saved, then those who do so will be saved, and those who follow non-Catholic religions will be lost. On the other hand, if all baptized souls can be saved by following any form of Christianity, then all baptized souls are saved regardless of which option they choose. Therefore, the only way you can be lost is by following a non-Catholic religion if, as the Church has always taught, there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church (absent the standard exceptions). Thus, the only logical choice is to follow what the Church has always taught.

We can apply this to you in two ways, both as a fellow sinner trying to make it to heaven, and in your capacity as the bishop dressed in white. As a fellow sinner, why would you bet your eternal salvation on the post-Vatican II ideas that have been so obviously disastrous? While you were in the seminary, you probably heard the grand forecasts that ecumenism would lead to unity and overflowing Catholic churches. Just the opposite happened — Catholics abandoned the Faith of their fathers in droves, filled with bitterness and sadness. All the prophets of change were wrong, and many were apparently malicious. Would you trust these fools with your eternal salvation?

May God grant you the grace you need to save your soul, honor God, and lead many souls to heaven. When He does give you the grace, accept it. Otherwise, we hope to never see the place that Satan has prepared for you.

But your situation is unique because you have taken such great responsibility upon your shoulders. It is bad enough that you will not choose to follow what the Church has always taught, but it is infinitely worse that you have occupied the papacy to prevent others from following the religion of all the saints. Indeed, you want to wipe that “rigid” and “backward” religion off the face of the earth, even though you would protect every other Christian religion. How can you be so very sure that God wills every religion in the world other than the Catholicism of your youth? All the saints would tell you that you have it exactly backwards.

Your occupation of the papacy exposes you to greater peril if you harm God’s Church and deprive Him of the love He wants to receive from souls. But it also allows you to do something heroic at this moment. You can choose between one of the lowest places in hell or a high place in heaven. Your role at this moment in salvation history therefore acts like a magnifier of the eternal consequences we all face. You can honor God and become a great saint if you reject the anti-Catholic spirit that has poisoned so many souls since Vatican II. With so many people praying for you, it seems that God will grant you the grace to do so.

But perhaps you would hesitate because so many “great people” support your efforts. Is it odd to you that many of your great friends who tell us to “trust the science” on the environment also tell us we are bigots if we say that men cannot become pregnant? And why are these great friends of yours pushing for World War III? If we all need to stop eating meat to save the environment (because cow flatulence is so bad), what do they think nuclear bombs will do to the environment? These are the geniuses you would follow instead of the Church’s saints?

You can be a great saint but you have to first be a great man, and you are running out of time. Many of us would offer our lives to help you convert, because we want to see you in heaven. May God grant you the grace you need to save your soul, honor God, and lead many souls to heaven. When He does give you the grace, accept it. Otherwise, we hope to never see the place that Satan has prepared for you. We pray that the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Undoer of Knots, intercedes on your behalf to obtain everything you need to choose heaven over hell. 

In Christo Rege,
Robert Morrison
Michael J. Matt | Editor, The Remnant



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
"The Anti-Christ must be really smart and popular with most people. Evil, spawn of Satan. Who fits that bill.

The Anti-Christ = Obama, maybe?

The Great Whore of Babylon = Kamala Harris, Valerie Jarrett, or maybe even Ishtar, goddess of war and sexual depravity. We sure have a lot of that nowadays....

101 posted on 11/04/2023 7:01:30 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: Elsie

Bizarre to say the Least!
The Prince of Lies has a Field Day !
.
It’s no wonder Tradition plays So
Much in this Cult.


102 posted on 11/04/2023 8:54:26 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: annalex
My time is valuable. Value yours.

Indeed, and that of others, in that of seeking to make changes in the hearts and lives of others, for time and for eternity. Including reproof of false gospels, one of which is that of Catholicism, which her members are to (well, not really now) believe in, to their eternal hurt, if they do not see thru the falsehoods, and find penitent, heart-purifying, regenerating effectual faith in the crucified and risen Lord Jesus, (Acts 10:43-47; 15:7-9) which faith is imputed for righteousness, (Romans 4:5) and is shown in baptism and following the Lord of all. (Acts 2:38-47; Jn. 10:27,28)

Thanks and glory be to God.

103 posted on 11/04/2023 9:05:54 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Elsie

But the ‘opinion’ was formed after an apparition appeared!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Really? An apparition? Well then, that explains everything!


104 posted on 11/04/2023 10:39:02 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: Elsie; metmom

But the ‘opinion’ was formed after an apparition appeared!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Thought perhaps this would be of interest to both of you.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/4194453/posts


105 posted on 11/04/2023 10:58:40 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: ebb tide
Vincible ignorance will not get anyone into Heaven.

OF course not; but obeying apparitions will!


 

15 'promises' from whom??? 


  1. Whoever shall faithfully serve me
  2. I promise 
  5. The soul which recommends itself to me
  9. I shall 
11. You shall obtain all you ask of me
12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me
13.I have obtained
15. Devotion of my Rosary 

 

Versus...

 

Isaiah 53

Who has believed our message
    and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
    and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
    nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
He was despised and rejected by mankind,
    a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
    he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

Surely he took up our pain
    and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
    stricken by him, and afflicted.
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.
We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
    each of us has turned to our own way;
and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed and afflicted,
    yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
    and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
    so he did not open his mouth.
By oppression[a] and judgment he was taken away.
    Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
    for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b]
He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
    and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
    nor was any deceit in his mouth.

Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
    and though the Lord makes[c] his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
    and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
11 After he has suffered,
    he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied[e];
by his knowledge[f] my righteous servant will justify many,
    and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,[g]
    and he will divide the spoils with the strong,[h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
    and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
    and made intercession for the transgressors.

 


 


106 posted on 11/04/2023 1:17:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

I was interested.


107 posted on 11/04/2023 1:21:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
See No. 1
108 posted on 11/04/2023 4:54:06 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: annalex

How much time do you have?


109 posted on 11/04/2023 4:56:09 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: kinsman redeemer
See No. 99
110 posted on 11/04/2023 4:56:48 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I did read that.

I thought you had come to your senses and recognized your huge mistake.

You really DON’T know what a NT “saint” is, do you?

And I thought you were just PLAYING dumb.

Wow!

First off, the headline of the article you posted contains an error. True saints are not part of any “religion”. True Saints are in a “relationship” with Jesus Christ.

You make so many mistakes that I actually feel sorry for you and your obsession with your “religion”.

I’m done with reacting to your obsession.

Try reading more of the Bible and fewer of your articles of faith.

I’ll get back to you after you post more garbage in the future but for now, I’m done with your _______.


111 posted on 11/04/2023 5:09:28 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good. )
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To: kinsman redeemer

Then you are in a false religion. There is only one, True Church.

I’ll get back to you after you post more garbage in the future but for now, I’m done with your _______.

You can get back to be whenever your little heart desires. I'm always ready to correct.

112 posted on 11/04/2023 5:48:24 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

LOL

“You can get back to be whenever your little heart desires. I’m always ready to correct.”

Did you mean “…me…”,
Or, “…whatever…”,
Or, “…be corrected.”

???

Whichever way you answer, it looks like Catholic Karma!

LOL!!


113 posted on 11/04/2023 9:28:51 PM PDT by Ken Regis (I concur. )
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To: Ken Regis
I had always suspected you were being insincere. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.


114 posted on 11/04/2023 9:34:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The only contradictions are in your own mind.

Seek help.

ASAP


115 posted on 11/05/2023 4:17:37 AM PST by Ken Regis (I concur. )
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To: roving
From the article linked in this post.

4) Jesus and Peter Simultaneously Prayed to Saints and for the Dead

Tabitha was a disciple in Joppa who died. Peter prayed to her when he said “Tabitha, rise.” See Acts 9:36-41. She was dead, and he was addressing her. There is no impenetrable wall between heaven and earth. This is not only praying to the dead, but for the dead, since the passage says that Peter “prayed” before addressing Tabitha first person. And he was praying for her to come back to life.

Dave Armstrong is a terrible Roman Catholic apologist.

I post the passage in question for context...something most Roman Catholics ignore...the context of a passage.

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36Now in Joppa there was a disciple named Tabitha (which translated in Greek is called Dorcas); this woman was abounding with deeds of kindness and charity which she continually did.

37And it happened at that time that she fell sick and died; and when they had washed her body, they laid it in an upper room. 38Since Lydda was near Joppa, the disciples, having heard that Peter was there, sent two men to him, imploring him, “Do not delay in coming to us.”

39So Peter arose and went with them. When he arrived, they brought him into the upper room; and all the widows stood beside him, weeping and showing all the tunics and garments that Dorcas used to make while she was with them.

40But Peter sent them all out and knelt down and prayed, and turning to the body, he said, “Tabitha, arise.”

And she opened her eyes, and when she saw Peter, she sat up. 41And he gave her his hand and raised her up; and calling the saints and widows, he presented her alive. 42It became known all over Joppa, and many believed in the Lord. 43And Peter stayed many days in Joppa with a tanner named Simon. Acts 9:36-43

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The question: who was Peter praying to? The obvious answer is God.

Peter did not pray to her when he said Tabitha, rise. He said this after he had prayed. Which in this situation one would want to pray to God.

However, what Peter said to her is not a prayer.

He is not imploring her for anything...he is not relying upon her for anything as Roman Catholics do when they wrongly pray to departed believers, wear scapulars, medals, etc. all of which demonstrates a complete lack of confidence in God.

Peter is commanding this woman to rise. He, through the power of God to demonstrate the legitimacy of his calling, raised her from the dead. And we see the purpose of this resulted in many believing in Christ.

Roman Catholicism has a "patron saint" for near about everything in life....much as the Roman Empire had a god or goddess for about everything in life. And as Rome was wrong on this so is Roman Catholicism.

All prayer is directed to God Who alone is capable of answering our prayers.

116 posted on 11/05/2023 8:22:51 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: fortes fortuna juvat; metmom
Well metmom, since you obviously consider yourself to be very knowledgeable concerning those “endemic” problems, don’t be coy, please share your soul-saving knowledge with me and the hundreds of millions of other deluded Catholic and Orthodox folks who are now on the road to hell!

First, come to a saving knowledge of Christ and trust in Him and only Him for your salvation.

No amount of good works will save you.

When you pray, pray only to God. Not departed people who may or may not be in Heaven but purgatory...as per Roman Catholicism, but not Scripture.

If you wear one of the scapulars, miraculous medals, medals of saints, etc....toss them in the garbage. Those are false man-made idols.

Start reading your Bible daily.

Find a bible believing church in your area and begin attending.

117 posted on 11/05/2023 8:27:23 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Campion; metmom
So Jesus, when he spoke to Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration, was either sinning or just setting a really, really bad example for us?

Put the verse and your question in context.

1Six days later Jesus took with Him Peter and James and John his brother, and led them up on a high mountain by themselves. 2And He was transfigured before them; and His face shone like the sun, and His garments became as white as light. 3And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. 4Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, I will make three tabernacles here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.” 5While he was still speaking, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice out of the cloud said, “This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased; listen to Him!” 6When the disciples heard this, they fell face down to the ground and were terrified. 7And Jesus came to them and touched them and said, “Get up, and do not be afraid.” 8And lifting up their eyes, they saw no one except Jesus Himself alone. Matt 17:1-8 NASB 95

Note what did and what did not happen.

That Moses and Elijah appeared indicates they were not in Purgatory.

It does indicate there is an afterlife.

But pay special attention to Peter in this passage. He asked to build three tabernacles...one for Jesus, Moses and Elijah.

Jesus did not respond to his statement. What can we draw from this?

No tabernacles or shrines are to be built to people. This would eliminate all of the so called Marian shrines around the world built to honor/worship Mary.

118 posted on 11/05/2023 8:35:41 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: NKP_Vet; metmom; daniel1212; Elsie
I certainly call him out. I think he’s a fraud. A plant in the Catholic Church to try and destroy it.

NKP....think about what you said. The pope, duly elected by the College of Cardinals, who approved the supposed "vicar of Christ" is a fraud.

I wonder what the Roman Catholics would have said about Urban II and his non-biblical forgiveness of sins for those who died in battle (Roman Catholicism's version of jihad)...or about Boniface VIII and Unam Sanctam.

Certainly seems a number of RCs on this forum are not being subject to the Roman Pontiff.

119 posted on 11/05/2023 8:49:25 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Ken Regis
Seek help.

I just got back from Holy Mass. There's no greater help than that.

120 posted on 11/05/2023 9:35:52 AM PST by ebb tide
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