[MurphsLaw]

(cf. Eph. 1:6, the only other New Testament occurrence of kecharitomene).”

Wrong.. Charitos is used in EPH 1:6 - NOT Kecharitomene.

That word Luke use was a ONE TIME special deal... To Address Mary
The word is being used as a TITLE.
Gabriel did NOT say, “Hail Mary, you are kecharitomene”
but simply- in an identifying manner...
“Hail kecharitomene.”
It's not a hello verse that describes an action ...
but rather a way to describe her new IDENTITY.

So you need to rely on modern day translations that suit your belief.

smh...

[metmom]

Amazing how Catholics will hair split the Greek to justify their doctrines about Mary and yet blow off the Greek when it comes to *petra* and Petros* as being of no significance.

Or ignore the Greek when conflating the use of the word *lord* (kurios) and *god* (theos) when claiming Mary is the mother of God and Elizabeth says *mother of my LORD*.

For honesty and consistency in Scripture interpretation, use one of the other, but employing both depending on which doctrine you want to support is really intellectually dishonest at the very least.

Either the Greek matters, or it does not. It’s just not honest to have it matter when it supports you and not matter when it doesn’t.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

—> Wrong.. Charitos is used in EPH 1:6 - NOT Kecharitomene.

…sigh

Luke 1:28–31 (BKC):

“The angel said that Mary was highly favored (kecharitōmenē, a part. related to the noun charis, “grace”; the verb charitoō is used elsewhere in the NT only in Eph. 1:6).”

……

—> The word is being used as a TITLE

Not in Luke or anyone else.

—> “Hail kecharitomene.”

Love how you used an English word, but kept a Greek word to make it appear as a title!

I already posted the literal Greek translation.

The angel greeted Mary . “Hail, graced-one”

[Elsie]

So you need to rely on modern day translations that suit your belief.

Going back to the GREEK:

 Luke 1:28-29

 

²⁸ And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

²⁹ Who having heard, was troubled at his saying, and thought with herself what manner of salutation this should be.

 

 

 

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28   2532 [e]
28   kai
28   καὶ
28   And
28   Conj

1525 [e]
eiselthōn
εἰσελθὼν
having come
V-APA-NMS

4314 [e]
pros
πρὸς
to
Prep

846 [e]
autēn
αὐτὴν  ,
her
PPro-AF3S

2036 [e]
eipen
εἶπεν  ,
he said
V-AIA-3S

5463 [e]
Chaire
Χαῖρε  ,
Greetings
V-PMA-2S

5487 [e]
kecharitōmenē
κεχαριτωμένη  !
[you] favored with grace
V-RPM/P-VFS

3588 [e]
ho
ὁ
The
Art-NMS

2962 [e]
Kyrios
Κύριος
Lord [is]
N-NMS

3326 [e]
meta
μετὰ
with
Prep

4771 [e]
sou
σοῦ  .
you
PPro-G2S

2127 [e]
eulogēmenē
⧼εὐλογημένη
Blessed
V-RPP-NFS

4771 [e]
sy
σὺ
[are] you
PPro-N2S

1722 [e]
en
ἐν
among
Prep

1135 [e]
gynaixin
γυναιξίν⧽  .
woman
N-DFP

[Elsie]

It appears that FR doesn’t like fancy formatting.