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The Cult of Mary
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Posted on 08/16/2023 6:39:10 AM PDT by zucchini bob

(2 Peter 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (Isaiah 28:10) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: (Isaiah 28:13) But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ecumenism; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: 1cor4verse6; acultic; antimaryignorance; biglie; blasphemy; catholicism; cathpropaganda; christianity; coremptrix; cultic; cults; demigoddess; demonworship; electusscripturae; epmv; goddessworship; heretics; luke1; magnifiedmary; mariolatry; maryforgives; marylistens; marymiracles; praytomary; ptcbih; romanism; semiramisastarte; syncretism
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To: metmom

—> This business about Rome being the OTC, over all is complete balderdash

It is what they were taught by men in the “discount costumes” as my Catholic uncle called them


361 posted on 08/18/2023 1:37:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: metmom

“Either the Greek matters, or it does not.”

Much like the Scriptures overall. If you discount or ignore just one thing, then you don’t have to believe any of it.


362 posted on 08/18/2023 2:03:35 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I already posted the literal Greek translation.

The angel greeted Mary . “Hail, graced-one”

OK, So what does "graced-one" mean to you?

Is it a special grace?
What is this Grace, what is it's purpose?
And Why?


363 posted on 08/18/2023 2:25:15 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("I consider the sufferings of this present time are nothing compared with the glory to be revealed")
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To: MurphsLaw

—€ Is it a special grace? What is this Grace, what is its purpose?

The context reveals this.

Scripture foretold a virgin would conceive and give birth to Messiah.

Every Jewish women hoped to be the one to bear Messiah.

Gabriel revealed Mary was to be this woman.

God chose Mary to bear Messiah.

Gabriel is revealing Mary is highly graced by God to be the chosen virgin.


364 posted on 08/18/2023 2:40:49 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: ADSUM
This is the only biblical instance where an angel addresses someone by title and not name. While “full of grace” comes from St Jerome’s Latin vulgate it lacks some of the depth of the Greek word which means that God has already “graced” Mary previous to this point. God endowed Mary with an abundance of grace for the vocation of divine motherhood.

He said, “O man of high esteem, do not be afraid. Peace be with you; take courage and be courageous!” Now as soon as he spoke to me, I received strength and said, “May my lord speak, for you have strengthened me.” Daniel 10:19

So he came near to where I was standing, and when he came I was frightened and fell on my face; but he said to me, “Son of man, understand that the vision pertains to the time of the end.” Daniel 8:17

Then the angel of the LORD said, “O LORD of hosts, how long will You have no compassion for Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, with which You have been indignant these seventy years?” Zecheriah 1:12

365 posted on 08/18/2023 2:43:58 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: metmom
If you take issue with that, talk to the Holy Spirit about it.
Tell HIM He screwed up in inspiring Scripture.


Well yeah...
If it's the same Holy Spirit who was sleeping at the wheel for over a 1000 years,
letting the Catholic Church lead people astray
and let pagan Rome run the show for so long...
and allow the for the splintering into hundreds of different denominations
letting them each say "they" each all have the "truth" now, no one else...
if its that Holy Spirit you're talkin' about...

yeah... I want that guy fired.
Now.


366 posted on 08/18/2023 2:44:54 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("I consider the sufferings of this present time are nothing compared with the glory to be revealed")
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To: RoosterRedux
Well, the Queen of Heaven is in the Bible (Jeremiah 44:17). But, of course, it refers not to Mary, but to a demon/goddess (thought to be Astarte, Semiramis, or one of the other names of the most powerful demon goddess)

You are correct sir. Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz. I think the religion of Nimrod, was widespread in the world, when Jesus walked the earth, and, still is today.

367 posted on 08/18/2023 2:50:32 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: ADSUM
28 And he came to her and said, “Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you. Luke 1:28 NRSVCE

In the remainder of the text Gabriel addresses simply as Mary. No new title. No proclamation of being sinless or anything like that.

368 posted on 08/18/2023 2:56:54 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mark17
Since Goddesses (demons) pop up in different demonic cults/religions under different names, this might even be Artemis of the famous Ephesus cult.

The early church was rife with syncretism wherein evangelists would tell various goddess worship cults that Christianity wouldn't be alien to them because it has its own "goddess" (i.e., Mary).

In other words, "Become a Christian and bring your goddess with you."

It is interesting that those who worship Mary don't realize the pagan/demonic origin of it. It isn't Mary they are worshiping, despite what they might think.

369 posted on 08/18/2023 3:07:48 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: metmom
If you take issue with that, talk to the Holy Spirit about it. Tell HIM He screwed up in inspiring Scripture.

Sounds like a losing proposition to me, MM. 😀😀😁

370 posted on 08/18/2023 3:13:29 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; metmom

I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I have heard that Mary didn’t really know for sure, what Jesus’ mission was, till he walked out of the tomb.


371 posted on 08/18/2023 3:19:39 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: RoosterRedux

“It is interesting that those who worship Mary don’t realize the pagan/demonic origin of it.”

And that idea of mother-son co-reigning is a very old pagan concept, long before RC embraced it. It’s all pagan.


372 posted on 08/18/2023 3:25:26 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MurphsLaw

—> letting the Catholic Church lead people astray

God is long-suffering.

Noah preached for +100 years, and God allowed the worst evil to continue.

Israel was horribly evil for hundreds of years before God allowed the Babylonians to come over the hill

The world has continued on in evil for +2000 years since the resurrection… but time is running out before the tribulation begins.

“The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.”


373 posted on 08/18/2023 3:30:33 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Goddess worship probably runs back to the antediluvian period. Which brings to mind fallen angels and The Nephilim.


374 posted on 08/18/2023 3:31:31 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Mark17

—> I don’t know if it’s true or not, but I have heard that Mary didn’t really know for sure, what Jesus’ mission was, till he walked out of the tomb.

I think that is likely correct.

She knew everything eventually.


375 posted on 08/18/2023 3:32:47 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: MurphsLaw

——>and allow the for the splintering into hundreds of different denominations
letting them each say “they” each all have the “truth” now, no one else...


Maybe a good place to start for any “Christian”, looking for the “truth”...

Revelation 12:17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the REMNANT of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Keep the commandments of God, have the testimony of Jesus Christ

Many “churches” invoke the name of Jesus Christ, but they dump on the commandment requirement, as clearly seen here:

Matthew 7:21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’

23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of LAWLESSNESS!’


376 posted on 08/18/2023 3:34:24 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: RoosterRedux
It isn't Mary they are worshiping, despite what they might think.

Yes. I can’t remember for sure, but when the Israelis were worshipping the queen of heaven, didn’t that get them into the Babylonian captivity?

377 posted on 08/18/2023 3:36:00 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Mark17

Often, when there was idol worship, Astarte was there. Even King Solomon, when he was very old, worshiped Astarte (1 Kings 11:5)


378 posted on 08/18/2023 3:44:38 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: MurphsLaw
As you probably know, there is one unforgivable sin: Blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

Even in jest, I would strike that comment...have it deleted and pray over it.

Seriously.

379 posted on 08/18/2023 3:49:42 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; MayflowerMadam
She knew everything eventually.

So did James and Jude, the half brothers of Jesus, the natural sons of Mary and Joseph, after they did the evil deed (sex) We don’t know if the other half brothers and sisters of Jesus became believers, but I hope they did.

380 posted on 08/18/2023 3:59:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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