The Cult of Mary

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[zucchini bob]

(2 Peter 1:20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (Isaiah 28:10) For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: (Isaiah 28:13) But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

[Mark17]

My cousin has been a minister in Italy since 1973. He tells stories of the “miracles” and religious-themed visions that people report sometimes over there. He also believes that people do see things, but it’s obviously demonic activity.

Yes, the visions at Fatima, and other places, are demonic and evil. It seems that demonic activity, like Fatima, proliferates in areas where there is occult activity and superstition. You should see it here.

[af_vet_1981]

My cousin has been a minister in Italy since 1973. He tells stories of the “miracles” and religious-themed visions that people report sometimes over there. He also believes that people do see things, but it’s obviously demonic activity.

Yes, the visions at Fatima, and other places, are demonic and evil.

There were some Pharisees who also decided to call what they saw or heard, but did not understand, as demonic. There were other Pharisees who were wiser and counseled patience.

But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.

But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

-- Matthew 12:24-32


When they heard that, they were cut to the heart, and took counsel to slay them.

Then stood there up one in the council, a Pharisee, named Gamaliel, a doctor of the law, had in reputation among all the people, and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space;

And said unto them, Ye men of Israel, take heed to yourselves what ye intend to do as touching these men.

For before these days rose up Theudas, boasting himself to be somebody; to whom a number of men, about four hundred, joined themselves: who was slain; and all, as many as obeyed him, were scattered, and brought to nought.

After this man rose up Judas of Galilee in the days of the taxing, and drew away much people after him: he also perished; and all, even as many as obeyed him, were dispersed.

And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.
-- Acts 5:33-39

[MurphsLaw]

Romanism cannot afford to
because they KNOW it cannot stand up to
careful Scriptural scrutiny.

Ah...careful scriptural scrutiny...
Sounds like you're ready to explain
where the seventh-day sabbath was vacated in your Holy scripture
To allow for you to copy the "Romanism" TRADITION of Sunday Worship-
for which it is extra-biblical doctrine responsible
for negating God’s Sabbath command.

[Mark17]

I don’t care if a billion people believe the apparitions are something other than fallen angels. They are fallen angels, appearing as angels of light. I wonder if people would believe the manananggal if they saw it. Millions believe that to be true too. I don’t believe it, or the Fatima apparitions. I NEVER will. The manananggal and Fatima are fallen angel manifestations. I don’t care who believes them. I don’t.

[MurphsLaw]

GOD did it.

With NO help from Martin Luther's Editorial faculties,
in helping that Bible just drop out if the sky onto your lap?

Give some credit where it is due.

[Philsworld]

Ah...careful scriptural scrutiny...
Sounds like you’re ready to explain
where the seventh-day sabbath was vacated in your Holy scripture
To allow for you to copy the “Romanism” TRADITION of Sunday Worship-
for which it is extra-biblical doctrine responsible
for negating God’s Sabbath command.

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She won’t explain it, because she can’t.

[Elsie]

It only fell to pieces in your world.

That's right.

Mormons still cling to the 'translation' that JS can up with; even in the faceof overwhelming evidence from Egyptologists with decades of experience.

The so called “originals” were not what Joseph had translated.

Izzat so?

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The consensus among both Mormon and non-Mormon scholars is that the characters on the surviving papyrus fragments do not match Smith's translation. 

 

Joseph Smith Papyri - Wikipedia

[Elsie]

The so called “originals” were not what Joseph had translated.

And you know this, how?

The following shows that JS was very lax in keeping records!

https://rsc.byu.edu/introduction-book-abraham/joseph-smith-papyri

[Elsie]

Until then it’s just going to be mud slinging and contentious rhetoric designed to confuse, distort, and deceive. One might ask oneself who’s doing that and why?

The only 'mud' that I sling comes from LDS sources or the Bible.

I tend to follow THIS rule:

Matthew 5:11-13 KJV

11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

If it's false; I can't do much other than showing the truth.

If it's true, I can't only agree with it, or ignore it, or try to cover it up with a bunch of my own words.

[Elsie]

So you have a fifty fifty shot, wait and take your chances or stop researching what man says, and listen to the whisperings of the Spirit of God.

Well, GOD was not whispering when HE said that ALL manner of sin shall be forgiven men; except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

The LDS religious organization teaches that Christ's blood is NOT sufficient in certain sin atonement.

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Doctrine and Covenants 42:18

And now, behold, I speak unto the church.

Thou shalt not kill; and he that kills 

shall not have forgiveness in this world,

nor in the world to come.

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At least this teaching is NOT found in the BoM.

[Elsie]

Great synopsis of the Gospel!

[Elsie]

Blood Atonement

See this page in the original 1992 publication.

Author: Snow, Lowell M.

The doctrines of the Church affirm that the Atonement wrought by the shedding of the blood of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is efficacious for the sins of all who believe, repent, are baptized by one having authority, and receive the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands. However, if a person thereafter commits a grievous sin such as the shedding of innocent blood, the Savior's sacrifice alone will not absolve the person of the consequences of the sin. Only by voluntarily submitting to whatever penalty the Lord may require can that person benefit from the Atonement of Christ.

[Elsie]

...stop researching what man says...

Sorry: I've got too much Berean in me.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

—> With NO help from Martin Luther’s Editorial faculties,
in helping that Bible just drop out if the sky onto your lap?
Give some credit where it is due.

He is the Sovereign Lord who accomplishes all He decrees.

People are vessels.

He uses His creation to accomplish His decrees.

[Philsworld]

Elsie can’t explain it either.

[Philsworld]

Elsie can’t explain it either.

(Oops, sorry again Elsie. Forgot to ping you.)

[metmom]

Changing the subject again, I see.

Nope. Not biting.

[metmom]

If lots of people believing something for a long time were the test of Truth, then lots of other religions older than Christianity would be right ahead of Catholicism.

[Philsworld]

SABBATH VS. SUNDAY STATEMENTS BY PROTESTANT CHURCHES

https://empowermissions.org/the-sabbath-sunday-statements-by-protestant-churches/

Murph, they all know. Most are cowards for hiding the truth. (See, I didn’t say hypocrites. Happy?)

[MurphsLaw]

He uses His creation to accomplish His decrees.

What do you mean by "decree" ?