Posted on 07/02/2023 1:39:04 AM PDT by spirited irish
Josh Timonen was one of Richard Dawkins’ closest companions from 2006-2010. He was even working for Richard Dawkins when Dawkins was publicly shaming Ray Comfort for videos that appeared as if Ray was saying that bananas prove the existence of God—which eventually culminated in Ray being known as The Banana Man. Yet by the grace of God, over a decade later, Josh ended up coming to Christ! Here’s his story.
(Excerpt) Read more at patriotandliberty.com ...
ping to once he was lost; now he is found.
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Praise God...
There seems to be a rather broad and virulent strain of atheism that runs through British intellectual circles. Reference Dawkins and also Stephen Fry.
CC
Keep praying for our enemies.
GOD BLESSED him!
Nice to have a news story once in a while that is uplifting rather than depressing.
Thanks for this story.
It has been so for 150 years.
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Yet,
Dawkins [essentially] Admits Nothing Can Persuade Him God Exists
how can can a exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with intricate astounding complexity, be all a result of purely natural processes, rather than indicating a supreme intelligence, a creator?
It responded:
The idea that the universe can be created from nothing is a complex topic that has been studied by physicists and cosmologists for many years. According to the laws of physics, energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be converted into matter and vice versa. Matter can be created from gamma photons in pair production1. However, we know of no way to create energy1.
The idea that the universe was created by a supreme intelligence is a philosophical and religious belief that is not supported by scientific evidence. The scientific explanation for the origin of the universe is based on empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time. While there are still many unanswered questions about the universe, scientists continue to study and explore these questions using the scientific method.
In response I started to debate it but accidentally hit the Enter key in my first sentence, and it responded:
I’m sorry but I prefer not to continue this conversation. I’m still learning so I appreciate your understanding and patience.
So I asked again (as a new topic):
You previously offered an explanation of the universe as well as being possible from nothing, and with the laws of physics explaining this, rather than a creator. How can you create energy and matter out of nothing, and organize it, and exclude a supreme intelligence as the answer?
It responded:
The idea that the universe can be created from nothing is a complex topic that has been studied by physicists and cosmologists for many years. According to the laws of physics, energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be converted into matter and vice versa. Matter can be created from gamma photons in pair production1. However, we know of no way to create energy1.
The idea that the universe was created by a supreme intelligence is a philosophical and religious belief that is not supported by scientific evidence. The scientific explanation for the origin of the universe is based on empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time. While there are still many unanswered questions about the universe, scientists continue to study and explore these questions using the scientific method.
To which I responded:
Is not your atheistic position one of faith? What empirical evidence and mathematical models warrant the position that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with intricate astounding complexity, can be all a result of purely natural processes, rather than indicating a supreme intelligence, a creator? Why is the latter not a rational hypothesis, but instead seems to be excluded even as one?
Again it responded:
The scientific explanation for the origin of the universe is based on empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time. The idea that the universe was created by a supreme intelligence is a philosophical and religious belief that is not supported by scientific evidence1.
The scientific explanation for the origin of the universe is based on empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time. While there are still many unanswered questions about the universe, scientists continue to study and explore these questions using the scientific method1. I hope this helps clarify your question. Let me know if you have any other questions.
To which I responded:
Why are you simply parroting the same propaganda as before, rather than rationally considering my objections and interacting with them? Your response seems robotic, and I expected more out of you.
But again it responded:
I’m sorry but I prefer not to continue this conversation. I’m still learning so I appreciate your understanding and patience.
We thus should conclude that GPT-4 is a creation of man, programmed but such who are is unable or unwilling to see the problem that no empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time establishes that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with intricate astounding complexity, can be all a result of purely natural processes, but that instead it is a position of faith, requiring much faith, more so than that the universe logically testifies to design, requiring a First Cause (at the least), that of a powerful being of supreme intelligence being behind the existence of energy and organization of matter.
Great video, just watched it- responded on the site there, but it’s in moderation there. Here is what I said:
Suppressing the truth through unrighteousness- ie running from God, the still small voice within, that tells you that there is a God, a creator, by denying his existence
It’s only when the Holy Spirit turns the light on in our minds and shows us that Jesus really was who he says he was… God in the flesh, that we fall to our knees because we suddenly realize how unworthy, how unholy we really are compared to Jesus, and we turn from “trying to save ourselves” (ie being ‘so good’ that God would be obliged to accept us IF he really exists) to telling Jesus whom we have just discoverd thanks to the work of the Holy Spirit’s work in our heart “I can’t do it lord, you must take my sin from me, my rebellion. I am incapable of living up to your requirement for salvation”. That is the essence of repentence- falling at the feet of Jesus and asking him to save us from ourselves, from our sin.
May God bless and open the eyes of those who have learned to ignore the holy spirit through unrighteousness
Sounds like it’s stuck on stupid.
CC
I could write one of these on the marvelous traits of fungi and how they attest to design.
Praise God!
Thanks! I enjoyed your ‘conversation’ with AI, especially when it exposed its mindless denial of God as based in atheism.
I have a ChatGPT account and I subscribe to Dr. Sowell’s assertion that true minimum wage is $0.00. I used the argument about having two employees who are each making $10.00 an hour. I’m now mandated by the state to pay $15 an hour so I keep the better employee and fire the other one who is now making $0.00 an hour and the gyrations it went through was like talking to my liberal cousin who believes that if an apartment owner’s property tax goes up, it’s their problem and not the tenants.
Like as if increasingly taxing businesses is not a consumer problem.
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