how can can a exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with intricate astounding complexity, be all a result of purely natural processes, rather than indicating a supreme intelligence, a creator?
It responded:
The idea that the universe can be created from nothing is a complex topic that has been studied by physicists and cosmologists for many years. According to the laws of physics, energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be converted into matter and vice versa. Matter can be created from gamma photons in pair production1. However, we know of no way to create energy1.
The idea that the universe was created by a supreme intelligence is a philosophical and religious belief that is not supported by scientific evidence. The scientific explanation for the origin of the universe is based on empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time. While there are still many unanswered questions about the universe, scientists continue to study and explore these questions using the scientific method.
In response I started to debate it but accidentally hit the Enter key in my first sentence, and it responded:
I’m sorry but I prefer not to continue this conversation. I’m still learning so I appreciate your understanding and patience.
So I asked again (as a new topic):
You previously offered an explanation of the universe as well as being possible from nothing, and with the laws of physics explaining this, rather than a creator. How can you create energy and matter out of nothing, and organize it, and exclude a supreme intelligence as the answer?
It responded:
The idea that the universe can be created from nothing is a complex topic that has been studied by physicists and cosmologists for many years. According to the laws of physics, energy cannot be created or destroyed, but it can be converted into matter and vice versa. Matter can be created from gamma photons in pair production1. However, we know of no way to create energy1.
The idea that the universe was created by a supreme intelligence is a philosophical and religious belief that is not supported by scientific evidence. The scientific explanation for the origin of the universe is based on empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time. While there are still many unanswered questions about the universe, scientists continue to study and explore these questions using the scientific method.
To which I responded:
Is not your atheistic position one of faith? What empirical evidence and mathematical models warrant the position that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with intricate astounding complexity, can be all a result of purely natural processes, rather than indicating a supreme intelligence, a creator? Why is the latter not a rational hypothesis, but instead seems to be excluded even as one?
Again it responded:
The scientific explanation for the origin of the universe is based on empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time. The idea that the universe was created by a supreme intelligence is a philosophical and religious belief that is not supported by scientific evidence1.
The scientific explanation for the origin of the universe is based on empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time. While there are still many unanswered questions about the universe, scientists continue to study and explore these questions using the scientific method1. I hope this helps clarify your question. Let me know if you have any other questions.
To which I responded:
Why are you simply parroting the same propaganda as before, rather than rationally considering my objections and interacting with them? Your response seems robotic, and I expected more out of you.
But again it responded:
I’m sorry but I prefer not to continue this conversation. I’m still learning so I appreciate your understanding and patience.
We thus should conclude that GPT-4 is a creation of man, programmed but such who are is unable or unwilling to see the problem that no empirical evidence and mathematical models that have been tested and refined over time establishes that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with intricate astounding complexity, can be all a result of purely natural processes, but that instead it is a position of faith, requiring much faith, more so than that the universe logically testifies to design, requiring a First Cause (at the least), that of a powerful being of supreme intelligence being behind the existence of energy and organization of matter.
Sounds like it’s stuck on stupid.
CC
Thanks! I enjoyed your ‘conversation’ with AI, especially when it exposed its mindless denial of God as based in atheism.
I have a ChatGPT account and I subscribe to Dr. Sowell’s assertion that true minimum wage is $0.00. I used the argument about having two employees who are each making $10.00 an hour. I’m now mandated by the state to pay $15 an hour so I keep the better employee and fire the other one who is now making $0.00 an hour and the gyrations it went through was like talking to my liberal cousin who believes that if an apartment owner’s property tax goes up, it’s their problem and not the tenants.