https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThmF7OErkxY”
I just finished his book. Very interesting!
Posted on 06/08/2023 8:17:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
With unidentified flying objects (UFOs) increasingly making headlines, intrigue over the topic only seems to be growing, with one apologist noting this phenomenon is even invading some Christians' beliefs.
Jason Jimenez, who leads Stand Strong Ministries and hosts the "Challenging Conversations Podcast," recently broke down some facts he wants Christians who entertain UFOs and aliens to understand.
"If you look at the belief that many people have had through the centuries, even if you go back as far ... as ancient Greeks, they believed and they even worshiped this idea of extraterrestrials among them," Jimenez said on his show. "And you see that in full display among many of those ancient cultures."
Even today, he said such beliefs are "going strong" among some factions, with UFOs increasingly breaking into the headlines and some claiming the phenomenon is attracting more popularity than ever.
Jimenez's episode on the matter specifically tackled three factors he believes refute the idea that UFOs and extraterrestrial life exist outside planet Earth: scientific explanations rebut claims of alien life, spiritual warfare is a biblical reality and demonic encounters have long been documented.
He started the podcast by noting most of the videos and photos of sightings reported have been determined by experts as having been "doctored up" in some way.
"The vast majority of stuff is a hoax," Jimenez said.
Listen to the apologist break down his position on aliens and UFOs:
But he noted there are some unexplained past events and times when things "outside of the natural where we cannot explain" have emerged, helping fuel the continued conversation about alien life.
"It piques people's interest and it never gets dull," Jimenez said. "And there's movies about it and there's documentaries about it, and so people love to talk about this stuff."
Yet the apologist said he doesn't believe in UFOs and aliens, explaining how Scripture offers no framework for such an ideal.
"The Bible doesn't mention anything of extraterrestrials," Jimenez said. "The Bible does talk about the spiritual realm [and] these spiritual beings known as angelic beings, and then in fallen Angels known as demons."
One explanation for some of these images is a spiritual manifestation of what we see described in the Bible — not alien life invading Earth, Jimenez said. It is an "interaction with spiritual beings" known as angels and demons that could be showing through.
"I wholeheartedly believe that there are times when we have witnessed or even captured the footage of a spiritual being interacting in the physical realm," he said. "Maybe it's a spiritual battle between an angel and a demon. Maybe it's demons messing around in using this type of influence to continue to strike fear or curiosity to lead people away from God."
The apologist discussed the fact one doesn't see any debris nor are their sonic booms or other evidence of aircraft coming into the earth's atmosphere — something he argued would be discernible in the many cases in which people claim to have observed UFOs in the skies.
Jimenez cited astrophysicist Hugh Ross, a Christian who has cast doubt on aliens and UFOs, noting the way these aircraft are said to move defies gravity.
While he believes "science can explain away a lot of these UFO sightings," he circled back to the reality that there are undoubtedly unexplainable phenomena. And, if something is clearly being seen, witnessed, or experienced and it's authentic, one must answer to what is practically happening.
"If we know that aliens don't exist out there, the Bible doesn't mention life outside the Earth ... then how can we explain this?" Jimenez asked.
He noted the Bible's explanation of angels as ministering spirits to guide and protect humans. The existence of a spiritual realm is further addressed throughout Scripture, with Ephesians 6:12 discussing a massive spiritual battle unfolding and bubbling underneath the surface.
The verse (NIV) reads: "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms."
"I think when we're having these discussions, when people go the realm of the UFOs, notice what's happening is this idea of turning the discussion on something that does not exist," Jimenez said. "And ... therefore not talking about spiritual warfare, spiritual activity."
He continued, "These are angels and demons. These are spiritual beings that come from a non-physical realm that interact in our physical."
Jimenez said he hopes the episode of the "Challenging Conversations Podcast" helps Christians better engage with fellow believers who might entertain UFOs and aliens while also helping them "stand strong with the armor of God."
He believes Satan is using UFOs and extraterrestrial life as a distraction.
"One way he's doing that is for our fixation — for us to focus in on extraterrestrial life," Jimenez said. "So, we're looking beyond and not noticing what he's up to."
Listen to the full episode for more on this fascinating topic.
Whether or not extraterrestrials 👽 exist, I do know one thing: God is ultimately in control, and He’s still offering forgiveness through Jesus Christ His son.
Ezekiel was not a christian, but he believed
A book on the same topic by a Christian:
“Piercing the Cosmic Veil” by Joseph G. Jordan and Jason Dezember.
They say “aliens” are from earth and are inter dimensional and that there are no beings coming from other planets.
“He believes Satan is using UFOs and extraterrestrial life as a distraction.”
Add -
Climate change
Iditing Trump
Cold Virus draped in Black Plague attire
Black Lives Matter
The Insurrection House Party (their big mistake was thinking it was the people’s house and not the world headquarters for global corruption)
Sounds like Jimenez is either on the same page as the authors I mentioned, or he is plagiarizing them. He even copied/uses the same Bible verse.
I think Christians need to be more aware of the Fermi paradox surrounding this question.
Billions of stars multiplied by billions of years equals . . .
Unlimited overwhelming numbers of extraterrestrials here on our planet
They are vastly more advanced than us and every conceptual level of variations of such ETs exist because of the universe’s vastness and near timeless origin they should be everywhere and obvious.
The rarity is proof there is no such thing.
I use to believe in the possibility of aliens until a documentary of the mass UFO sighting in Africa where elementary school children witnessed the event. All the kids said the same thing about what the “aliens” telepathically told them… which sounds exactly what the WEF have been promoting. I’m convinced now it’s a staged event or it was demonic…. Maybe both.
I’m wonder how long they’ve been working on the New World Order? 1994 was about the time President Bush was promoting it… Al Gore talking about climate change?
I find it hard to imagine the Lord making the entire universe and only choosing to populate this planet. Sure, it’s not mentioned in the Bible directly but Genesis 6 makes a good case for it along with Ezekiel.
Then if you dig into the book of Enoch, it appears to talk about other worlds and craft.
You'd better pray to the Lord when you see those flying saucers,
It may be the coming of the Judgment Day.
It's a sign there's no doubt of the trouble that's about,
So I say my friends you'd better start to pray.
They're a terrifying sight as they fly on day and night.
It's a warning that we'd better mend our ways.
You'd better pray to the Lord when you see those flying saucers,
It may be the coming of the Judgment Day
Many people think the saucers might be someone's foolish dream,
Or maybe they were sent down here from Mars.
If you'll just stop and think you'd realize just what it means;
They're more than atom bombs or falling stars.
And though the war may be through, there's unrest and trouble brewin'
And those flying saucers may be just a sign
That if peace doesn't come, it will be the end of some,
So repent today, you're running out of time.
When you see a saucer fly like a comet through the sky,
You should realize the price you'll have to pay.
You'd better pray to the Lord when you see those flying saucers.
It may be the coming of the Judgment Day.
In this field there is no proof of anything.
If you dig deep into the details it just gets weirder and weirder.
One of my favorite podcasts on this subject:
https://podbay.fm/p/liminal-phrames
Homo Sapiens has stunningly limited knowledge of how the universe works.
It is time to accept the humble conclusion that we don’t know what we don’t know.
It is the Ultimate in human arrogance or conversely human ignorance to think God Almighty would create a universe so vast that the human mind can not comprehend its vastness.
Galaxies upon Galaxies. Untold trillions of stars and among this mind-boggling vastness and incomprehensible numbers of suns and planets and galaxies that only our earth has the sole intelligent lifeform.
This is illogical on its face. Why would the LORD GOD create such vastness, such diversity? And only populate one planet among the innumerable trillions He created with intelligent life?
Only human arrogance or more likely human ignorance is responsible for assuming such.
Our primitive human knowledge and comprehension are the reason for our fears and our ignorance in this area of thought.
Very many of us are still filled with low-level primitive fears. So, we ridicule and dismiss that which we fear. And, don’t even dare to consider.
Alien contactees have received two main messages over the decades:
—Stop polluting the planet
—Stop nuclear war
Many folks who have thought long and hard on the subject have concluded that this is a message from alien race(s) that live here and don’t want to deal with our nasty stuff:
https://thejournalofcosmology.com/Puthoff.pdf
Aliens from distant galaxies could care less what we did to ourselves or the planet.
nothing more than demons in disguise...
there’s actually one residing in the White House....
I find it rather humorous that anyone would imagine Christians would not believe in intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. God is not here. Angels are not here. Jesus is not here. And in the Revelation, “I saw the New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven.” ... who made that happen, if not intelligent life not present on the earth?
As to the aliens of science fiction, the odd creatures with the big eyes and elongated heads, we’re perhaps not sold on them. They may exist, or they may be a case of contagious self-delusion. All I know is, never saw a grey alien myself although one or two fellow human beings made a darned good effort to impersonate them.
Interesting question. From a co-worker a couple of days ago before this supposed event in Las Vegas. Not sure if he’s a Christian or not.
Quote: what if God is actually an alien from another world? What if we are like a zoo, the aliens come to visit and observe the wild animals?
Then he said something bizarre. Don’t you think the resurrection already happened? When Jesus returned that was the resurrection and we are all living in the world after the second coming of Christ. I mean he’s actually correct about the second coming right? Jesus was born (first coming) then the resurrection was the second.
Interesting to ponder I guess.
You can believe what you want. It’s that simple.
Christians believe that Satan has tremendous power, including messing with people’s minds.
I just finished his book. Very interesting!
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