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[Catholic Caucus] Francis Fights against “Sterile Traditionalism”
Gloria TV ^ | June 3, 2023 | Gloria TV

Posted on 06/03/2023 4:44:39 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Francis Fights against “Sterile Traditionalism”

n a message to the May 28 Festa del Voto in Sassari - celebrated since 1943 when a vigil to Our Lady of Grace protected Sassari while other Sardinian cities were bombed - Francis mentions the Mediatrix of all graces which in December 2019 he called "foolishness."

He added his inevitable buzzwords ("pastoral conversion", "spiritual renewal", "synodality") and then threw a tantrum, “Do not give in to the temptation to remain anchored in a nostalgic popular piety that consists only of external rites or in a sterile traditionalism that is rather the expression of the dead faith of the living.”

For Francis, there is at currently a great danger of "going backwards” that "leads us to think according to the logic: it has always been done this way.”

This was obviously a reference to a rampant Vatican II nostalgia that insists on liturgical forms that have failed for more than half a century.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: antipope; apostatepope; dictatorpope; donatedonaldtrump; donatefreerepublic; donatetrump; frankenchurch

1 posted on 06/03/2023 4:44:39 PM PDT by ebb tide
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2 posted on 06/03/2023 4:47:07 PM PDT by ebb tide (The pope ... said the church's “catechesis on sex is still in diapers.”)
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To: ebb tide

Far from sterile; I find it beautiful and uplifting. My faith has grown in amazing ways since I started attending the TLM. My daughter-in-law (a convert to the Faith) says the same thing.


3 posted on 06/03/2023 4:47:28 PM PDT by sneakers (It's not the democraTIC party! It's the demoCRAT party! )
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To: sneakers

The past can’t be good if you want souls to go to hell...Francis has his master and it is not Jesus


4 posted on 06/03/2023 4:49:54 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: ebb tide

Traditional piety is not nostalgic. It transcends generations and is Eternal.

Felt banners and “Let There Be Peace on Earth” (with lyrics updated every few years) would be nostalgic, if anyone really liked them.


5 posted on 06/03/2023 5:23:05 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: ebb tide

“Francis mentions the Mediatrix of all graces which in December 2019 he called “foolishness”.”

He said declaring it a Marian Dogma was foolishness: https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2019/12/pope-calls-idea-of-declaring-mary-co-redemptrix-foolishness

There are reasons to think Pope Francis does not support the dogma. What he says in this article is not one of them.

Here is a more likely example: https://angelusnews.com/faith/once-again-pope-francis-says-mary-is-not-the-co-redemptrix/


6 posted on 06/03/2023 5:46:24 PM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ebb tide

I am so unbelievably tired of this meanspirited attitude towards Tradition, and I don’t even go to a Latin Mass!

And apparently the Pope is not paying attention, because Tradition is what is rejuvenating the Church. Where do our vocations come from? In the US, from Latin Mass communities and then very reverent OF Mass dioceses.

The new-fangled liberal communities? *Nothing.*

Sterile indeed.


7 posted on 06/03/2023 6:14:56 PM PDT by Chicory
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To: ebb tide

Still a lot better than sterile Marxism and paganism.


8 posted on 06/03/2023 6:27:37 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: vladimir998
There are reasons to think Pope Francis does not support the dogma.

Bergoglio's mission is to destroy the Church per his masters (Satan) instructions.

9 posted on 06/03/2023 8:10:48 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (The soap box and ballot box have failed, it might be time for the bullet box.)
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To: ebb tide

Curious that he would say “sterile.” Most Traditionally inclined people I know are from and/or have large families.

It seems to me that modernist are promoting sterility with their population controlling agendas.


10 posted on 06/03/2023 8:17:43 PM PDT by FranklinsTower
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To: ebb tide

Tradition is what connects us to the past. It reminds us that the moral issues that we face in life are the same ones that they faced in the middle ages. That human nature does not change. That there is good and evil in the world, the same as there has been for the last thousand years. There are eternal truths to be presented, and one of the ways to do that is to remind people that there are some things that do not change. Example, the mass that they are attending is the same one that people were attending hundreds of years ago. Some things, some truths, do not change. (I know this is a bit of a repetitive run-on, but I didn’t have time to polish it. Off to work.)


11 posted on 06/03/2023 9:13:17 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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