Posted on 05/29/2023 8:08:01 AM PDT by spirited irish
The Triune God’s miraculous creation has its’ foundation in the fact that He spoke all things into existence from nothing. Early Church Father Irenaeus comments,
“God, in the exercise of his will and pleasure, formed all things…out of what did not previously exist.”
But if there is no Triune God, then it logically follows there is no source for life, consciousness, soul, spirit and will, or for human dignity, worth, liberty, and property. Without God the Father unalienable (God-given) rights are meaningless. If man is not God’s spiritual image-bearer, then he is less than nothing, a conclusion Buddha reached long before Jesus Christ walked this earth:
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ping to the abyss
This is a dilemma for me.
As soon as our society said “you are allowed to believe whatever you like” this collapse was inevitable.
It is much easier to believe nothing. No obligations, no judgement. Give people freedom of religion and they will abandon it.
Does this mean that all free societies will eventually collapse?
Is "Protestant America" some sort of "fulfillment" of Catholicism/Orthodoxy in the same sense that chrstianity is allegedly a "fulfillment" of Judaism (chas veshalom!)?
If it was okay for Athanasius to be Catholic/Orthodox, then why isn't it okay for Linda Kimball to be as well?
It’s not the semi-automatic weapons causing “gun violence.” This is the real reason for ALL VIOLENCE. No guardrails anymore. It’s anything goes and if it feels good, do it.
The problem is:
It’s not OUR guns,
It’s YOUR sons.
‘The Triune God’s miraculous creation has its’ foundation in the fact that He spoke all things into existence from nothing.’
this statement is completely illogical; if ‘nothing’ existed, then whence the Triune God to speak all things into existence; conversely, if God did exist, the the contention that He created from ‘nothing’ is untrue, as god’s existence precluded nothingness...
‘Does this mean that all free societies will eventually collapse?’
why do you assume a societal collapse because its religions over time change or even lose, their messages...?
are you stating that a secular society cannot function on its own....?
“are you stating that a secular society cannot function on its own....?”
No society can survive without a moral foundation. We have removed ours.
We need Jesus Christ now more than ever!
We started it when we took God out of the public square!
‘Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.’ John Adams
“are you stating that a secular society cannot function on its own....?”
Well, I don’t know about Renfrew, but I say that, absolutely and without reservation.
Yes, that's exactly what it means.
are you stating that a secular society cannot function on its own....?
Look around you.
Look at the secular societies of the 20th century.
Does it look like it?
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Does this mean that all free societies will eventually collapse?
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Satan sells freedom too.
Satan sells life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, too..
Satan’s version eventually collapses because Satan doesn’t get to operate forever.
That may feel like a collapse if that’s the free society one buys and sells
Others may see it like a version of Babylon falling.
And start to see that as an end of Satan’s reign before His Day Comes
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I agree.
Prepare to be hunted. Jan. 6th prosecutions were meant to silence you. It has worked.
Yep.
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