REV. JOHN PIPER
Posted on 04/30/2023 8:53:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
REV. JOHN PIPER
Theologian and Bible teacher John Piper recently shared what he says are "six biblical realities" showing why Christian parents shouldn't allow their kids to cross-dress, especially at church.
In an episode of his podcast "Ask Pastor John" posted on the Desiring God website Monday, a listener asked about a family at her church that allows their son to wear dresses.
"They seem to let him choose most of what he wants to do," said the listener, identified only by the name Cindi. "We, of course, see a lot of danger in this parenting method. They were asked to leave a previous church over this issue. What would be your approach to helping these parents with Scripture on this issue?"
Piper, the chancellor at Bethlehem College & Seminary in Minneapolis, Minnesota, who served for 33 years as pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, offered "biblical realities" he hopes will encourage parents to "gladly submit to God's word and adjust their parenting strategies."
The first biblical reality he cited is found in Genesis 1:26, where the Bible says that God created mankind in His image, specifically dividing humanity between males and females.
"God did not create a generic human designed to choose his sex. He created males to be males and females to be females," Piper said. "Boys and girls should be taught this from the very beginning of their lives as a great and wonderful thing."
Second, Piper said, "God created man male and female so that there would be a beautiful and happy and fruitful complementarity in marriage," citing Genesis 2:24.
"Whether they marry or not (in God's providence), we should raise them with the conviction that the difference between boys and girls is designed for this beautiful outcome, the one-flesh union in marriage of a man and a woman," he added.
"Now God's design of the one-flesh union of male and female in marriage in the act of sexual intercourse is a confirmation that the way he created us is not negligible. It was part of his plan for our good, for filling the earth, for our joy, our pleasure. Boys and girls should be raised toward this natural outcome of their sexuality."
Listing the third biblical reality, Piper, who holds complementarian beliefs about marriage, stresses that "God takes these sexual differences so seriously that he bases leadership roles on them." He cited verses like Ephesians 5:22–24 and Colossians 3:18–19, where men are identified as the head of the household.
"In 1 Timothy 2:12, he assigns the authoritative teaching and governing role in the church to men. And in Ephesians 5:22–24 and Colossians 3:18–19, he assigns the headship of the family to the husband and father," he said. "The natural superior strength of men is drawn out by Peter in 1 Peter 3:7 as a reason why women should receive special honor as the weaker vessel, as well as another kind of honor as the fellow heirs of the grace of life. Children should be brought up with the awareness that their sexuality matters that much and in that way."
The fourth biblical reality, according to Piper, is that parents should "encourage their boys not to embrace effeminate ways of dressing or acting; and they should not encourage their girls to embrace masculine ways of dressing or acting."
"The Bible warns boys and men, for example, against effeminacy in 1 Corinthians 6:9," said Piper. "They should move against culturally confusing hairstyles, for example, in 1 Corinthians 11:14, and Deuteronomy 22:5 warns men and women against cross-dressing."
Fifth, Piper pointed to Ephesians 6:4, which says, "bring up your children in the discipline and instruction of the Lord." The theologian adds that this "instruction, as it regards sexuality, includes at least these previous four points."
Piper's sixth biblical reality to consider is that the church should "should help the parents feel there is a special urgency about these things in our day."
"And that if they don't help their children in a natural and happy way to grow up into mature manhood, or mature womanhood, they may be serving a wave of cultural rebellion against God, one that is not only destructive to their children, but to the world at large," he continued.
Last month, Piper denounced gender reassignment surgeries, telling an unnamed female listener who was considering undergoing such a surgery that it was "sinful" and "dreadfully destructive."
"The glory of womanhood is not something as superficial as breasts and uterus. It is marked in every cell of your body, every dimension of your soul, every part of your brain," Piper said.
"Dear friend, whose name I wish I knew, you are a female wonder of God's handiwork, and no amount of chipping away at it will make it cease to be a God-designed masterpiece."
Did John Piper say why he was telling everyone they had to get the deadly clot shot?
RE: Did John Piper say why he was telling everyone they had to get the deadly clot shot?
Can you share a link with us that quoted him saying that?
By the way, before we go off topic, I’d like everyone to focus on the TOPIC of this thread instead of going off topic on vaccines.
I was focusing on the credibility of John Piper.
Though Gods grace, so I’m rooting His horn, I’ve done my best and have followed all these points. Just by following Gods clearly written Word.
This is from Piper’s very crafty article about why Christians should get the clot shot:
“You are free to say with integrity, ‘My decision to be vaccinated is not a political decision. It is not right wing, or left wing. It is a biblically informed act of love.’”
https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/a-reason-to-be-vaccinated-freedom
Who needs this pretender’s six reasons when our own single reason is sufficient?
RE: I was focusing on the credibility of John Piper.
One can be right about one topic and wrong about another.
For example, I’m not going to NOT vote for Trump just because he encouraged everyone to get vaccinated for Covid, and if it boils down to Trump vs RFK jr., I am not going to vote for RFK Jr. over Trump just because he was right about the Covid vaccines.
We ought to evaluate what a person says based on the reasons he gives about a specific topic. That’s why I asked you to please focus on this topic.
We need a “Biblical reason”?
How about plain old common sense?
He is a flaming lib
One detail.
When it comes to school aged kids parents do not have a choice the children will be removed. Keep them out of schools.
I am a long time fan of John Piper……
…..whether others here are not does not negate the Biblical common sense he is speaking
‘Reasonisfaith’ and others should try to understand the anguish many parents are going through with this transgender evil.
Piper is speaking truth to love.
He is standing on God’s Word
Stop trying to hijack a needful thread!
Rev. Piper again, beating around the bush giving six reasons when one (which he omits from his bloviated list) will suffice: “A woman shall not wear man’s clothing, nor shall a man put on a woman’s clothing; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God." Deuteronomy 22:5
Seeing how John Piper’s kids turned out, he’s the last person in the world I would turn to for advice on raising kids - he’s not even qualified to be an elder - just sayin ...
Neither is a divorced man qualified to be an elder, if one applies the Word as written: A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach[.]" I Timothy 3:2 AKJV (emphasis added).
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Devarim (Deuteronomy) 22:5
לֹא־יִֽהְיֶ֤ה כְלִי־גֶ֨בֶר֙ עַל־אִשָּׁ֔ה וְלֹֽא־יִלְבַּ֥שׁ גֶּ֖בֶר שִׂמְלַ֣ת אִשָּׁ֑ה כִּ֧י תֽוֹעֲבַ֛ת יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֶי֖ךָ כָּל־עֹ֥שֵׂה אֵֽלֶּה
A man’s attire shall not be on a woman, nor may a man wear a woman’s garment because whoever does these [things] is an abomination to the Lord, your God.
Cross-Dressing
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/970805/jewish/Cross-Dressing.htm
Interesting quote from the article:
“Maimonides, in his “Guide for the Perplexed,”4 states that some of the ancient pagan rituals involved cross-dressing and that we must therefore distance ourselves from this type of behavior.”
What’s old is new again!
Kids need more than unguided looking at themselves and their world to know who they are and their place in the world. Kids can be led astray beyond the point of no return. Kids need leadership that holds them back from the extremes, not seduces them toward extremes.
All of the above applies to adults also but society knows that adults must contribute to society, not remain in often expensive training and rehabilitation to keep them out of trouble.
In the old days dangerous adults were much more quickly eliminated from society than they are today.
If Piper is merely an unknowing participant in the fraud and not an active member of the cabal, then I apologize.
The effect of my speculations about Piper would have negligible effect on his status.
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