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KING SAUL AND THE WITCH OF ENDOR: NECROMANCY AND GHOST PITS IN THE ANCIENT WORLD
PatriotandLiberty ^ | Nov 2022 | Clyde E. Billington PhD

Posted on 04/21/2023 2:41:35 AM PDT by spirited irish

Just before fighting his final disastrous battle on Mount Gilboa against the Philistines, King Saul, in disguise, asked the Witch of Endor to summon up the ghost of the prophet Samuel so that he could consult with him. In the ancient world, necromancy, or the summoning up of the ghosts of the dead, was frequently done by means of “ghost pits” dug into the ground. As will be seen, when the Witch of Endor summoned up the ghost of Samuel, she was using a ghost pit. The use of ghost pits was a common pagan practice in the ancient world.

Most English translations of 1 Samuel 28:7 have Saul sending his servants to find a woman who has a “familiar spirit.” However, the Hebrew word ob/ov, which is almost always translated into English as a “familiar spirit,” should be more properly translated as a “ghost pit.” Saul is sending his servants to find a “woman possessing a ghost pit.” Such ghost pits could not be dug just anywhere, but only at special, prescribed, sacred pagan sites.

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TOPICS: History; Theology
KEYWORDS: lookwhohatesjews; necromancy; occultism; spiritism
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1 posted on 04/21/2023 2:41:35 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish

BTTT


2 posted on 04/21/2023 2:44:21 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: spirited irish

YOU LIKE THEM CAPS METHINKS. ITS LIKE AN ANNOYING FRIEND, FRIEND.


3 posted on 04/21/2023 3:02:17 AM PDT by know.your.why (Be not eager to be offended. The narcissism of small differences leads to THE most boring conformity)
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To: spirited irish; Fred Nerks
There they go again, disturbing things that should be left alone. A body has to get some rest!


4 posted on 04/21/2023 3:06:21 AM PDT by Candor7 ( ( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: know.your.why

Not my caps but the caps used by ARB. Seems it’s they who like them, so perhaps you’ll address your annoyance with them.


5 posted on 04/21/2023 3:20:33 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish
Ancient texts indicate that the spirits supposedly coming up out of these ghost pits had voices that sounded like chirping birds.

This sounds a lot like the well that the Twelvers of the Muslim Shia say that from which the Twelfth Imam will emerge

6 posted on 04/21/2023 3:24:00 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Interesting. Thanks for sharing.


7 posted on 04/21/2023 3:33:21 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: know.your.why
YOU LIKE THEM CAPS METHINKS.

What a petty comment. Who cares, go back to bed............Sheesh!

8 posted on 04/21/2023 3:37:38 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My guitar wants to kill your mama - Zappa)
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To: spirited irish

Years ago I read a treatise on the witch of Endor, which stated that she was probably a fraud. And the reasoning behind that POV was that she conjured up an actual ghost and it scared the living daylights out of her.

An actual witch conjuring up a ghost wouldn’t have had that reaction to something that purportably was part of the trade craft.

I would liken it to modern day charlatans of “dark trades” who if they actually did conjure up a ghost, would probably s*** their pants.


9 posted on 04/21/2023 4:34:55 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: spirited irish

Very interesting.

I recall decades ago being struck by the similarities of witch of endor story and the greek story.

This is the first I’ve heard of the term ghost pit and its use throughout the ancient world.


10 posted on 04/21/2023 4:42:23 AM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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To: Clutch Martin

The Bible is filled with stories indicating that allegiance to Satan does confer real powers upon his followers. Cruses, necromancy, and prophecy are very real in the Good Book.

Have these vanished from the world? Or are the enemies of Christ still using these occult powers in their struggle against us believers?


11 posted on 04/21/2023 5:05:36 AM PDT by Renfrew (Muscovia delenda est)
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To: spirited irish

Very Interesting article


12 posted on 04/21/2023 5:07:43 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: spirited irish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Gilboa


13 posted on 04/21/2023 5:52:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Renfrew

Have these vanished from the world?
I think Jonathan Conn’s, Return of the Gods, shows they have returned with friends!!

#2 question. Satan worship has increased into the public eye and churches have not taught how to discern spirits and cast them out. Worship portals have opened for occult powers without Christians casting them out in the Name of Jesus Christ. My hope...revival is making us aware of what Jesus wants us to know about Him and awakening our souls and spirits to win for Jesus and not satan.
We get to chose what kingdom we want to spend eternal life and thoughts of eternal should shake a lot of people!!!


14 posted on 04/21/2023 5:57:51 AM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl ( )
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To: spirited irish

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.


15 posted on 04/21/2023 7:54:43 AM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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To: spirited irish
This is interesting, indeed, but you ruin it all when you . . .

SHOUT

the title.

16 posted on 04/21/2023 9:15:55 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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First, the title in caps is taken directly from the website author. Second, caps are a kindness to those whose sight is fading. Are we to deny them this kindness because caps annoy some people?


17 posted on 04/21/2023 10:23:05 AM PDT by spirited irish ( )
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To: spirited irish
High beam headlights on on a busy can also be justified. Thank goodness most people don't drive with them on.
I'm pretty sure that Freepers are aware of the "Zoom in" feature on their computers before browsing the forum.
18 posted on 04/21/2023 10:33:50 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: spirited irish
The important thing to know about the Witch of Endor, is that Saul violated his obligation to exterminate her and any like her, one of his many devestating national sins.

Whether she collaborated with a demon or used trickery to decieve Saul about "Samuel's alleged ghost" is irrelevant

Exodus 22:18
Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live

19 posted on 04/21/2023 12:22:21 PM PDT by Theophilus (It's fake and defective)
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To: spirited irish

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20 posted on 04/21/2023 5:01:07 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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