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Vatican and FBI: Two interesting partners in smearing Latin Mass Catholics
LifeSite News ^ | February 17, 2023 | LifeSite News Staff

Posted on 02/18/2023 4:10:15 PM PST by ebb tide

Vatican and FBI: Two interesting partners in smearing Latin Mass Catholics

On this week's episode of Faith & Reason, John-Henry Westen and Liz Yore provide the latest news and up-to-date reaction on the FBI memo targeting 'radical' Latin Mass Catholics, the Synod on Synodality, the pressure on African bishops to support the decriminalization of sodomy, and Hungary standing up to European Union globalists and their radical pro-LGBT agenda.

Although the FBI claims to have “retracted” the memo, the original whistleblower is saying it is still circulating on its internal servers. On Friday, the USCCB also put out a curious statement on the memo after a long silence, denouncing the memo as “troubling and offensive” while still condemning “extremism” and “fully [supporting] the work of law enforcement officials to keep our communities safe.”

Liz Yore comments that the “retraction” of the memo hardly means the FBI will not continue to single out and target faithful Catholics in the future.

“You saw what they did to Mark Houck. This is not going to stop,” she says. “They got caught this time. It would have been full speed ahead had we not had the whistleblower who released this memo. And so it’s a cautionary tale. It’s a very disturbing tale.”

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1 posted on 02/18/2023 4:10:15 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; kalee; markomalley; miele man; Mrs. Don-o; ...

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2 posted on 02/18/2023 4:12:42 PM PST by ebb tide
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The groups listed weren’t necessarily “Latin mass” only groups


3 posted on 02/18/2023 4:16:23 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: ebb tide

Liberal Catholics getting ready to sell the faithful ones for 30 pieces of silver, so that their control of the Church is complete?

Would that narrative be reality in a world where the most absurd story has become the norm so often?


4 posted on 02/18/2023 4:17:10 PM PST by Bayard
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To: ebb tide

This is more proof that the FBI has gone over to the dark side.


5 posted on 02/18/2023 4:18:16 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: escapefromboston; All
The groups listed weren’t necessarily “Latin mass” only groups

True. The FBI is also upset with Catholic groups that take traditional teaching on abortion and sodomy seriously.

6 posted on 02/18/2023 4:24:36 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: ebb tide

Used to occasionally go to Latin Mass in DC and now they don’t exist around here.

Miss JPII much....on steroids.

Francis’s preference is the WEF and not the traditional Catholic philosophy.


7 posted on 02/18/2023 4:29:02 PM PST by lizma2
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To: ebb tide

In the Last Days....
This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.


8 posted on 02/18/2023 4:35:00 PM PST by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: Angelino97

That’s EXACTLY what this is about. And I’m a conservative Protestant.

They’re coming for ALL of us.


9 posted on 02/18/2023 4:39:20 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: escapefromboston

This is all connected to Aleksandr Dugin, the Russian traditionalist philosopher whose daughter died in a car bombing meant for him in august 2022. He’s a Russian nationalist with some crazy but typically Russian theories about the greatness of Russia, its historic mission of opposition to western liberalism (of which Marxism was the ultimate example), etc. Tolstoy had some of the same theories. Dugin is an Old Believer (Orthodox traditionalist sect) but his personal theories seem to include some paganism and a mystical faith in the Russian people.

Whether he’s a friend and advisor of Putin or whether Putin actually hates him is in dispute. The car-bombing may have been the work of Putin…or, something considered most likely, it may have been the work of the Ukrainians, who hate Dugin because he regards them as westernized, sell-out Slavs controlled entirely by the Atlantic powers.

In any case, because his movement is known as Traditionalist, when US security services were in the throes of the Russia, Russia, Russia hysteria, the Catholic traditionalist movement obviously floated across their defective radar and thus became a new target.

Most traditionalist Catholics would never have heard of Dugin, although they’re probably sympathetic to the thought of Solzhenitsyn and other conservative Russian thinkers, so I guess that’s maybe why they got swept up in this.

Or maybe it’s just part of the American attack on orthodox Christians because we’re not with the program.


10 posted on 02/18/2023 4:45:07 PM PST by livius
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To: ebb tide

The Devil’s disciples.


11 posted on 02/18/2023 4:45:44 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: ebb tide

George Soros pulls all the strings in Washington, either directly, or indirectly.

George doesn’t like conservative Catholics.

There’s your explanation.


12 posted on 02/18/2023 4:45:56 PM PST by BrexitBen
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To: Angelino97

If I had to guess it was because the groups were strongly anti-abortion. The FBI would consider them a threat to the America’s “right to murder their babies”.
The FBI probably wanted to set up a crime like “shooting up an abortion clinic” and then blame all Pro-Lifers.
Just a guess though.


13 posted on 02/18/2023 4:55:30 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: ebb tide
If you've read Anti-Apostle 1025, and believe it as presented, it tells the story of how an infiltrator in the hierarchy of the Catholic Church, was instrumental in Vatican II and ensured there was sufficient ambiguity in the documentation, so as to allow broad and nefarious interpretation.

Thus, it is possible to defend the positions presented in Vatican II documentation, if you assume only Holy and Inspired implementation.

Vatican II compiles the results of multiple "working groups" on various subjects. So, it was the objective of the infiltrators to be the guy in the room with the pen in hand, documenting the results. Therein lay the opportunity to inject the ambiguous language, subject to later corrupt implementation.

14 posted on 02/18/2023 4:57:12 PM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: ebb tide

Does anyone know the content difference between the Latin mass and the English version? What is really going in here?


15 posted on 02/18/2023 4:57:17 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: livius

If so, thr FBI is far dumber than I ever imagined.


16 posted on 02/18/2023 5:21:16 PM PST by robowombat ( ..)
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To: lizma2

“Miss JPII much....on steroids.”

JPII did nothing for the Latin Mass.


17 posted on 02/18/2023 5:28:38 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: laplata

Then time to send them to Hell!


18 posted on 02/18/2023 5:29:06 PM PST by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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That’s where they all belong.


19 posted on 02/18/2023 5:32:26 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: ebb tide

I think a guy named Adolf did this about 80 years ago....


20 posted on 02/18/2023 5:35:35 PM PST by Pigsley (I)
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