Posted on 02/09/2023 7:32:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Will “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” be replaced with “Mother, Daughter, and Holy Spiritess?” Or none of the above? The Church of England is debating going gender-neutral, not because there is biblical precedent for it, but probably because all of the cool kids are doing it.
By way of total disclosure, I was born and raised in the Episcopal Church, which is a direct descendant of the Church of England. I was an altar boy, a term that was changed to “acolyte” when girls started serving on the altar. I was a member of the church well into my 30s when I began dabbling in agnosticism and Buddhism, before becoming an Evangelical and eventually Greek Orthodox.
As someone who grew up in the Episcopal Church with a feminist mother, I honestly never gave the idea of women priests a second thought. At one point, a prayer addressed to the “God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob” had the phrase “and of Sarah, Rebecca, and Rachel” spontaneously added. It didn’t phase me in the least.
And as I entered the ordination process, I occasionally went to conferences and retreats, because that’s what everyone does. Often I was one of the few men there. On one occasion, I was the only man at one of these gatherings. I got a distinct impression that I was being tolerated, but not welcomed. One of the speakers stood up and asserted that Jesus did not begin his ministry at the direction of God, but rather of Mary. She cited the wedding in Cana in which Mary asks Jesus to fix the wine situation as proof. In her estimation, Jesus could not start his work until his mother told him to do so. Well, whatever works for you, I guess.
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Meanwhile, Rev. Ian Paul has warned that playing the pronoun game with God would move the doctrine of the church away from the Bible. He also noted that changing “Father” to “Mother” or some sort of neutral designation would create a loss of meaning.
Fox News said that Rev. Joanna Stobart wrote:
Please could the Liturgical Commission provide an update on the steps being taken to develop more inclusive language in our authorized liturgy and to provide more options for those who wish to use authorized liturgy and speak of God in a non-gendered way, particularly in authorized absolutions where many of the prayers offered for use refer to God using male pronouns?
The Old One, the Young One, and the Rest is Everywhere Other One.
The church of England throws God to the curb and invents a new galse god in their own image tO placate myriad sinners who want their cake and eat it too. Only they will find out in the end they d9nt have a slice of the cake because they should their souls to political correctness, and are now worshipping a false god
I am not taking the Lord’s Name in vain. I AM mocking the Philistines.
Just come all the way out and worship Satan as your God openly. He’ll be all for any “inclusive “ language you want.
Easy answer: It will go out the door with parishioners like ME who flee churches that go "woke" like this.
Ditched my traditional church after it went "woke" a few years ago and never looked back. All that was left were elderly parishioners in their 80s and 90s, all the families left, including ours.
That's one of multiple reasons we believe Joseph had died before Jesus began His ministry. Instead of Mary asking Joseph to find a solution, she turned to Jesus. Another being that Jesus, not Joseph, read from the scroll of Isaiah in the synagogue in Nazareth (Luke 4:14-20). The belief is that it was Joseph's family's turn to read Scripture that day, since Jesus read it then perhaps Joseph had passed away.
By the way, back to Mary asking Jesus to help with the wine. Jesus' first response to Mary was "Woman, why do you bother me? My time has not yet come." (John 2:4). That doesn't exactly sound like Jesus sheepishly doing whatever His mother bid him to do. Sounds to me like Jesus wanted to start His ministry on God's time, not Mary's.
The Father, Son, Tranny ,morphydite and the Holy Sprit ?
One should never confuse the COE with an actual church. They are the Patriotic Church of England. As England goes post-Christian, so does their established “church”.
There was a fad in the 1980s and 1990s of calling the Blessed Trinity “The Creator, the Redeemer, and the Sanctifier”, pandering to the radical feminists.
1) Yes, it has been going on that long.
2) It’s heresy, the term for it is “modalism”.
Parent, child and, well, I guess we can keep “Holy Spirit”.
And the Church of England goes to hell. Along with all the other churches that insist that God accepts homosexuality and that it’s not a sin.
The Holy Trinity as They, Them, Those.
What horrible mush. Flaccid and mired in toxic estrogen, steeped in Socialist ethos and Gaia worship.
Buncha dang fools.
The Church of England on its never ending quest to make God into the image of sin filled man.
Creator/Redeemer/Sanctifier
I recall seeing a Lutheran college website that used these terms, as opposed to Father Son and Holy Spirit.
So, what happens to the terms Jesus uses for himself?
SON OF GOD, SON OF MAN?
Yes, a lot of this junk is a fad. I'd like to think it will pass, but I thought rap "music" would pass quickly as well.
That, and "Bro Country".
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