Posted on 12/28/2022 6:25:44 PM PST by marshmallow
The Constitutional Court of Ukraine ruled today that the bill calling for the forced renaming of churches or religious organizations associated with organizations in Russia is in line with state constitution.
Although it has been legally registered as the “Ukrainian Orthodox Church” for 30 years, there have been attempts at least since 2018 under President Poroshenko to forcibly rename the UOC as the “Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine,” although these attempts have been repeatedly blocked by Ukrainian courts.
It is well known that renaming the Church is simply laying the foundation to seize churches and outright ban the Ukrainian Church, which has come under increased pressure and persecution from the state in recent months.
Viktor Yelensky, the new head of the State Ethnopolitics Service (whose predecessor who opposed the banning of the UOC was recently fired), openly stated last week that the courts could outright ban religious organizations.
The new decision of the Constitutional Court takes into account the decision of the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Ilyin vs. Ukraine, which says that the state dictating a church’s name in order not to mislead people can be a justified restriction of the church’s right to name itself, reports the Court’s official site.
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Closing Russian organizations and seizing their assets makes logical sense if Russia is waging war against your country.
>> forcibly rename the UOC as the “Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine”
What’s the point of doing this? To stigmatize those who worship there?
>> Closing Russian organizations and seizing their assets makes logical sense
For some organizations, maybe.
But for the *Church*? Close the *Church* and seize its assets?
The Russian Orthodox Church is run by Kirill, a former KGB agent and best friend of Putin. It is the state church of Russia.
For that matter if there are any ROC in the USA they too should be heavily scrutinized for spies and agitators.
>> For that matter if there are any ROC in the USA they too should be heavily scrutinized for spies and agitators.
Would you like to empower our CIA/DHS/FBI to “infiltrate” and “scrutinize” all American churches? Or only certain ones?
Who decides which ones are worthy of infiltration?
What might go wrong with your plan? Might that form a basis for prosecuting church members and clergy for violations of the recent Fag Marriage Act? Or hunting down and prosecuting conservative “insurrectionists”?
Wow. Curious, what was your position on Mosques in America over the last two decades? Did we close the Episcopalian churches during the Revolutionary War? I thought we were opposing totalitarians in Ukraine, not supporting them.
“For that matter if there are any ROC in the USA they too should be heavily scrutinized for spies and agitators.”
That’s horrible for America to start to act that way at home. How long would it take them to get around to the local Baptist church to check for people opposing Biden? And last I checked, Americans have no special duty to have loyalty to Ukraine. There is no declaration of war, no nothing. Just a project by every leftist in DC I’ve ever heard of to join in with Ukraine. CNN, MSNBC, Hollywood, every libtard celebrity from Sean Penn on down, Biden, Obama, Hillary, Schwab, Macron, Boris Johnson, Trudeau. Schumer, Pelosi, etc... down the list. Hell, even that weirdo Spirit Cooking woman Marina Abramovic is holding a fund raiser for Ukraine. So every libtard, everywhere, is suddenly all about “freedom” now? Every American libtard is suddenly a patriot?
You Uke advocates I suspect, mostly have friends, spouses, relatives, adopted kids, etc from there and are thinking emotionally, and have deeply lost your perspective. They are not the good guys.
If I would find myself in the same boat with all those you mentioned, I would deeply consider swimming. To this day, there’s not one thing anyone can show me that has been done since Trump was illegally deposed that benefits America in any fashion. Quite the opposite.
“Did we close the Episcopalian churches during the Revolutionary War”
Yes we did, and the priests were arrested or forced into exile if they did not renounce their path to King George.
“To this day, there’s not one thing anyone can show me that has been done since Trump was illegally deposed that benefits America in any fashion. Quite the opposite.”
This...
Not a big fan of Islam. And the Episcopalian church came about when the US did indeed cut the ties with the Anglican Church, aka Church of England.
I’d like to see a few things purged from the USA:
1. Russian churches and other organizations if they’re loyal to Russia.
2. Chinese Communist Party organizations.
3. Wahabbist mosques
4. Scientology
5. Democrats
6. Prius drivers
Not necessarily in that order!
Except it is not Russian and it is the most popular Church in the country.
To make it clear .
The Russian church is controlled by the ex KGB Kirill
So you say.
LOL. I submit that should read: "Woke Prius drivers"
People who drive a Prius because it gives them a feeling of Liberal/Progressive righteousness, yes.
People who (like myself) who drive a Prius because it is the most logical fit to a certain set of transportation requirements, no.
In addition to the Prius I also have a large pickup/snowplow with a 5.7L V8 because it is the most logical fit to a different set of transportation requirements.
Ain't no woke here.
Who controls the Russian Church is irrelevant.
What is relevant is that the Ukrainian schismatic government Church attempting to take over is illegal in terms of Orthodoxy .
The globe homo agenda includes eliminating the church. Z is implementing this. Very satanic
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