Posted on 12/17/2022 10:08:59 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
This is an important interview with Tom Hughes and Mike Adams. Mike is a Rapture skeptic, but Tom stood firm on the preTrib Rapture. It’s a good program covering many areas.
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Excellent video with Pastor Tom and Mike Adams.
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New Ager David Wilcock & “The Health Ranger” Mike Adams Promotes The Counterfeit Michael the Arch Angel & The Ascended Master Deceivers: Saint Germain & Master Jesus (AKA Esu Sananda Immanuel)
Play from 13:10 to 25:58:
https://www.brighteon.com/9bed853d-2da2-4aef-bf32-875518dc26b7
Good information right there Golden Eagle.
Thank you for sharing!
I am about 95% or more pre-trib, pre-millional, but, having said that, there are a few verses that don’t fit. As far as being pre-trib, of course that is the great tribulation. I would not try to tell the people in Ukraine they are not going through a tribulation.
The old Testament Jews saw the prediction of a coming Messiah coming as a Lamb and as a Lion. They ignored the Lamb and looked only for the Lion. We had the coming of the Lamb, next time Jesus will be coming as the Lion.
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We were never promised our best life now as Christians.
We were guaranteed tribulation.
Here’s some analogies that go with the Church vs. Israel that may show you that God will protect, preserve, and save His Church (with a Pre-Tribulation Rapture) prior to the 7 year tribulation.
1. Enoch (Church) is taken up before the flood. Noah (Israel) and his family stay on earth, endure the flood (Judgement), and repopulated the world. Noah and his family waited 7 days in the Ark before the flood began.
2. Joseph (Church) is persecuted, but elevated to 2nd in Command of Pharoah’s Royal Court prior to the 7 year famine in the world. His brothers (Israel) endure the 7 year famine and must travel abroad for food/shelter/protection.
3. Shadrach Meshach and Abednego (Israel), refuse to bow down to worship the Image (666) in Babylon. They are taken and thrown into the fiery furnace that is turned up 7 times hotter than normal - and saved in the midst of it. Daniel (Church) pre-furnace is exalted and taken into a high position in Babylon’s Royal Court.
When God pours out His wrath in growing severety during the time of Jacob's Trouble He uses 144,000 virginal Jewish evangelists to evangelize the world, preaching the imminent and calculatable coming Kingdom return of Messiah. God removes the abiding spirit members of His Bride to make way for the empowering of the Jewish evangelists.
The Rapture ends the Church Age. The Rapture removes the spirits in whom abides The Holy Spirit else the man of sin could not come to power. The Rapture removes the neither Jew nor gentile Believers, so He then pours out His wrath on the unbelievers. The Rapture removal brings His bride to Heaven for the marriage feast of the Lamb, BEFORE the Lamb returns to set foot on the Earth for touchdown to rescue Israel. The Rapture removal of ALL believers is God's way of giving the unbelievers one last chance to believe ... and a number so great John could not count them DO BELIEVE and show up in Heaven prior tot eh touchdown of Jesus upon the Mount of Olives.
Good common sense interview from a pretrib Rapture perspective. Wise to prepare simply because we don’t know the exact date of the PRE TRIBULATION RAPTURE, but if the snatching away is delayed, things may get much worse until then.
Doubtless they will get much worse, for Christians. But God has Promised to keep us from even ‘the hour’ of testing. The testing is for the unbelievers, which ones will come to believe and be ushered to Heaven. The ones so ushered will have only the memories of those plucked away in the Rapture, and memories -we hope- of what we were saying while still here. And of course the evangelizing from the 144000 Jewish virgin men.
“I am about 95% or more pre-trib, pre-millional, but, having said that, there are a few verses that don’t fit. As far as being pre-trib, of course that is the great tribulation. I would not try to tell the people in Ukraine they are not going through a tribulation.”
The biggest confusion in the modern pre-trib teaching is the failure to distinguish between the Great Tribulation, Daniel’s 70th week, and the Day of the Lord. The pre-trib view relies on ambiguity regarding the distinctions between these prophetic events/time periods.
The Day of the Lord = the second coming. It is a time period that begins with the rapture and ends with Christ returning to earth to defeat the antichrist and set up His kingdom.
The Day of the Lord follows the Great Tribulation but is the latter part of Daniel’s 70th week.
One of many ways to prove this from scripture is by identifying the sign of the solar and lunar eclipse and related signs in the heavens. It is unique in human history. It happens “AFTER” the Great Tribulation and “BEFORE” the Day of the Lord:
Mattew 24:29 NKJV
Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Joel 2:31 NKJV
The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.
The rapture will come immediately AFTER this heavenly sign (solar/lunar eclipse) at the end of the Great Tribulation and at the beginning of the Day of the Lord. This view is called the pre-wrath rapture.
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Noah going into the ark 7 days prior to the flood is just one of many incorrect Pre Trib talking points. Basically, he had 7 days to get the animals into the ark. If you read the whole account esp. verses 12-16 you see that the flood started just as the Lord closed up the ark after they had entered.
So many people conflate ordinary everyday tribulation that Jesus said we should all expect because we live in a sin corrupted world, with the Great Tribulation, which is the time of a few years of God dealing with the nation of Israel and bringing judgment on the rest of the world for their sin.
Then they try to discredit the prophecy in Scripture that Jesus himself gave us about the Great Tribulation, the time of Jacob’s Troubles.
At the end of the tribulation, there will be precious few people left at all.
What exactly then is the point of rapturing people AFTER all hell breaks loose on earth?
God took whose He spared from destruction BEFORE He poured out judgement, like Noah and his family, and Lot and his.
God does not pour out judgment on the righteous.
They have already been judged.
EXACTLY!
The Great Tribulation is the wrath of God.
It you are going to espouse a pre-wrath rapture, it cannot be at the end of the Great Tribulation.
And eclipses happen pretty regularly.
How can you presume, or prove, these two to which you refer are the same one?
The pre-wrath 3/4 rapture folks are under a misconception that the entire seven years of tribulation is not God’s wrath being poured out in increasing severity. But looking at the goal of God with the Tribulation Israel comes under tells us God is putting an end to Sin in Israel ... the Sin of unbelief. The entire world is guilty of unbelief, so the entire world is under tribulation, for seven years. Those who Believe are not here for the treating of unbelief. They have been plucked away to keep them from the hour of testing ... testing the level of unbelief. God’s method works so well that a number so great John could not number them go from unbeliuef to belief and show up in Heaven! The key is what God aims to do with the tribulation ...
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