[Tzaphon]

Dates Re: Yeshua

25 Kislev 3756 - Chanukah / Conception of Yeshua

15 Tishri 3757 - Sukkot / Birth of Yeshua, September 14, -4

15 Nisan 3790 - (30 C.E.) Pesach / Crucifixion of Yeshua

Now for some real fun!

Go to the website Your Sky and generate the view from Jerusalem for Passover 30 C.E. The full moon passes right through Virgo (Betulah in Hebrew) literally the birth of the new covenant!

Your Sky

http://www.fourmilab.ch/yoursky/

Select Nearby City

Choose Jerusalem

Select Universal Time and

copy and drop this date and time into the appropriate box…

30-04-05 18:00:00

And you will see the great sign of the birth of the Brit Chadashah!

Cycle through the eveining and you’ll see the full moon pass right through the constellation Virgo, a birth, ouch!

Now when you look at the header from Your Sky the day will say Wednesday, but when you look at the same date from this site, same company BTW.

Calendar converter
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/

It will say Friday which is correct. Pope Gregory adjusted the calendar by ten days, count from Wednesday to Friday (count Wednesday) and you’ll hit Friday.

Happy Chanukah!

[Jonty30]

In the Old Testament, they believed the trees the cut down and decorated were alive and worthy of worship. I don’t believe anybody here thinks Christmas trees are alive and worthy of worship.

Having said that, I believe Romans 14 is the proper advisement. If you think it is wrong, don’t have one. If it is nothing tonyiu, feel free to have one.

[Jonty30]

Only the dates were removed, not the days.

[chuckles]

The human Jesus was born on Tabernacles as it denotes God living with His people. Of course God is forever, never born and never dies, He just chose to become human form and come through a woman. He had to be born of a woman to fulfill the prophesy in Genesis to crush Satan's head.

Trees are forbidden to be worshiped as the Jeremiah Scriptures say. We are even warned to not trade gifts "like the pagans do".

[Campion]

Jeremiah 10 has absolutely nothing to do with Christmas trees. Verse 5 makes this perfectly clear: "They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go." Nobody expects a Christmas tree to speak, and they aren't "borne" either, unless you count carrying them to the woodpile to be next year's firewood after Epiphany. The passage is clearly talking about the making of idols, images of animals or people representing pagan g-ds, which are purported to speak and are carried about.

Christmas trees started in the middle ages as props in morality plays, which started by depicting the fall in Genesis. The prop which became the Christmas tree represented the "tree of life," and the ornaments on it represent the forbidden fruit.

[GingisK]

That is all fine and good except nobody ever saw a Christmas Tree until Martin Luther made the first one.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

No.

Neither are singing angels, candles or turkeys.