Posted on 11/06/2022 5:59:20 PM PST by marshmallow
In 2021, there were 141,929 baptisms in Germany and 12,280 priests.
ESSEN, Germany (LifeSiteNews) — A German bishop commissioned 13 more female pastoral ministers to confer the sacrament of baptism.
They were in the second group of lay ministers that Bishop Franz-Josef Overbeck of the Diocese of Essen has commissioned to confer baptisms. In March of 2022, the German prelate commissioned 18 lay pastoral ministers, including 17 women, to administer the sacrament of baptism in their respective parishes for a period of three years.
Overbeck commissioned 16 additional lay pastoral ministers, including 13 women, on Sunday, October 23.
The German bishop named a lack of priests and “structural change” as the reasons for his decision to confer the rights to administer baptisms to lay ministers.
“It is a good and very meaningful tradition, deeply connected with the origins of the Church, that the sacraments are governed and administered by those who hold an office [holy orders] in the Church,” Overbeck said in his sermon on Sunday.
“In times of structural change, this is becoming increasingly difficult,” the German prelate continued. “Thus, by recognizing the crisis-ridden times, I use the possibilities offered by canon law (cf. can. 861 §2 CIC), in order to grant you, dear pastoral and parish ministers, permission to administer baptism in exceptional cases […].”
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From what I understand, any Christian believing in the Nicene Creed can perform a baptism. So a Baptist who converts to a Catholic does not need to be baptized. On the other hand, baptisms performed by Mormons are not considered valid.
In a scene from Thomas Hardy’s “Tess of the D’Ubervilles”, Tess is instructed by a minister she can baptise her dying bastard child using the Triune evocation.
Just schedule an appointment for when the priest is available.
Hell. The priest actually came to my Fathers home while he was bedridden with cancer to baptize my niece. 2 years later as the parents didn’t think it important enough to do. Grandpa thought differently. We got ‘Er done.
Thanks Father Kevin.👍
I think a Catholic converting to Baptist will be baptized by full immersion since the sprinkling form of baptism isn’t considered valid.
It’s faith in Jesus and acceptance of Him as your savior through prayer that saves you. It’s not the baptism that saves you. Baptism is the first command and act of obedience and symbolic of being dead to sin and reborn.
Do Baptists perform the ritual on children or does one have to be an adult?
You don't have to be an adult. But you have to profess your faith in Jesus. It has to be your choice. And a good preacher will ask both children and adults questions to verify their understanding of salvation and what they are doing.
So we don't baptize infants, because they can't choose. And there is no particular age. It's whenever the child chooses. I think I was baptized about 11. But didn't really understand it until 16, when a youth minister explained that Jesus died "once for all" for all sins past present and future. And that accepting his sacrifice as payment for your sins and accepting him as your savior through prayer takes the Lord up on His promise of salvation.
Yep
In this case, there is no crisis unless one prefers to have a crisis.
A Catholic converting to Baptist is considered an apostate and outside the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Prayers up for Holy Mother Church.
My great-great-great-grandmother was a midwife in the middle of the 19th century in a village in Europe. She would sometimes baptize a baby if it was about to die and there wasn’t time to call a priest (unfortunately the infant mortality rate was pretty high). I know about this only from the parish baptismal records which are online.
So what happens to your unbaptized infants who die? Are they doomed to Hell? Will they ever get to Heaven?
If you answer "Yes" to the latter question, why the necessity of a Baptist "baptism"?
The “lack of priests” is designed by non-Catholics who wish to stick it to the Lord. Pity the designers of non-Catholic rules. A person has to be spiritually empty to reject traditional seminarians and to accept women deacons. Sure, any baptized person can baptize another, but there is a thing about history and stuff.
Those infants will go directly to Heaven. King David expresses confidence that he will rejoin his infant son at a future date.
2 Samuel 1223 But now he is dead; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.”
Scripture is clear that there is a period where children do not know the difference between right and wrong. Therefore how could they be subject to God's judgement? (Deut 1:39, 2 Peter 3:9)
"If you answer "Yes" to the latter question, why the necessity of a Baptist "baptism"?"
As I explained in my prior post, it's faith in Jesus to be your Savior is what saves you. Baptism is not "necessary" but it is the first command and first act of obedience. Note the thief on the cross wasn't baptized, yet he acknowledged Jesus as the Lord and acknowledged his own sin and in his own way asked Jesus for mercy. And Jesus responded, "This day you will be in paradise."
I don't think we think of "original sin" the same as Catholics. If I'm right, Catholics think children inherit original sin from Adam and are thus automatically condemned unless they are administered the rite of baptism and later accept Jesus at their confirmation ceremony.
To Baptists, original sin means we inherit a sin nature. that is, a tendency towards sin. So when God says, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God", it's not because the goal was impossible. But rather we inherited a little bit of a rebellious nature.
So as infants and children, we aren't held accountable for our actions because we don't yet know the difference between good and evil. And we don't inherit an automatic judgement against us. That's also implied in Jesus answers to the Rich Young Ruler and the Lawyer who asked how to have eternal life. To both Jesus referred to keeping the law. "Do this and you will live." But Jesus did so in a way that the conversation revealed that they hadn't kept the law.
When Nicodemus, a Jewish teacher of the Law, asked, Jesus said, You must be born again.
And lastly, you asked, "will they ever get to Heaven". Which a take is a reference to the Catholic concept of purgatory. Baptists don't believe in purgatory. The purgatory concept comes from the apocrypha. And the apocrypha is the apocrypha because the authorship of those books is either uncertain or was not from an apostle.
Paul said for Christians, "to be absent the body is to be present with the Lord." So when a Christian or for an infant or child below the age of accountability dies, we immediately enter the presence of the Lord. There is no judgement waiting for us, for we have been washed clean. (Romans 8:1, Romans 8:33-39)
That view is also consistent with the scripture that says, "It is appointed unto man once to die and after that the judgement." Didn't really mention purgatory.
There is the White Throne judgement for believers but that is more of a rewards ceremony and not a sin judgement. As we were made perfect in the Lord's eyes at the moment we received Jesus. (Hebrews 5:9, Hebrews 10:14, Isaiah 1:18)
Sounds like a contradiction to me.
Therefore how could they be subject to God's judgement?
Because nobody is saved based on their own intrinsic goodness or holiness, not even little children. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God," says Paul in Romans.
Paul said for Christians, "to be absent the body is to be present with the Lord."
Actually, he didn't say that. 2 Cor 5:8 in the KJV reads, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.". Nothing says that "absent from the body" implies "present with the Lord", only that he's happy to be both.
Not that long ago a priest who had not used the proper wording saying “we” instead of “I” during baptism had decades of them invalided.
Under the Roman Catholic rules any baptized Christian can baptize, with two conditions: Baptize in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (or Ghost), and Intend what the Church intends by baptism.
Emergency baptisms happen in the delivery room, not often, but they do happen there, and there’s quite a lot of electricity in the air when a Christian steps forward to perform this service for a family facing one of the most dreaded things anyone can ever face.
First time I've heard a Baptist say that!
So he couldn’t find 13 men?—performing baptisms doesn’t seem to be his real agenda. And why 13 women?—perhaps not coincidentally the same number as a witch’s coven.
I’ve never heard a Southern Baptist say anything but that.
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