Posted on 10/15/2022 9:33:25 AM PDT by ebb tide
I sometimes wish that I could travel back to see my parish in the 1950s in West Philadelphia. The great domed church, St. Francis de Sales, towering over Victorian houses and Edwardian apartment buildings, can seat 800, but back then it needed simultaneous Masses in the lower church and the parish hall to fit all the attendees. I wish I could still watch that many people streaming toward the church each Sunday. We are not now that strength which we once were. The loss of that strength is hard, but it can end up being the source of renewal.
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Ping
Is the Bee doing church stories now?
Yes, emptying the pews is certainly a great sign of renewal. Bring it down to zero and we’ll really be renewed!
Jesuit publication. ‘Nuff said.
I am SOOO happy with Eastern Orthodoxy, don’t miss Frankie at all.
A small tidbit (1987) about the Jesuit author of this article: "Priest weds former parishioner"
"Terrance Sweeney, an author and former Jesuit who was suspended from the Catholic priesthood two years ago, was married in an Episcopal ceremony to a television actress who belonged to his Beverly Hills parish."
Source: https://www.upi.com/Archives/1987/11/16/Priest-weds-former-parishioner/1359564037200/
This is what the commies will say when America is in shambles and we’re eating squirrels.
It’ll be a “tremendous opportunity” as Blinken puts it.
First, in the Vatican II documents themselves, we received a wonder of theological richness promulgated with the full teaching authority of the church.
With the promulgation of these documents, we have officially refuted an antisemitic past and begun to engage earnestly in interreligious dialogue.
We experience now a church where the laity matter
Typical leftist memes of - the bad old days were racist, sexist, and non-inclusive. Its good we are rid of them!
The only factual statement of the article is:
In the decades since the council, Catholics have abandoned the church in droves.
You true Catholics have to get beyond the revelation that your Church is corrupt to the core.
Today in Beijing, Xi Jinping is going to be given a “bow” as the absolute leader of the Red Dragon, China. He will go forth concurring and to concur on One Belt, One Road. It will be interesting to see if the CCP propaganda on this shows him riding a White Horse.
It is time for us all to form the Assemblies of Believers who will have to endure this onslaught of the Harlot, Mystery Babylon, before the Antichrist is finally revealed and kills her and the current One World Order.
Indeed correct. Thank you. Middle initial A for the Pamela-married film producer “former Jesiot”, and J for the Villanova “current Jesuit.” The resume reads as if he is quite the enthusiast for ecumenicism. Let’s wait for Vatican XII.... Should be interesting.
PS Like the quote from St. Therese of Lisieux.
I worship at an aging parish outside Cleveland. Most of the parishioners are either retired or coming up on the day. They are people who have worked, many at blue collar jobs, their entire lives, and worshipped every week, partaking of the Eucharist every week, in many cases for decades. Their marriages have endured. They have stayed in their lanes and lived their lives between the lines. They have no truck with the Vatican, no use for “Pope” Francis.
They know the voice of the Shepherd.
They are the salt of the Earth.
Their children come, and bring their grandchildren, although no, not all of them.
They wouldn’t have the faintest idea what this fatuous “adjunct professor” is talking about..
Well, actually, I’ve read worse…that is, one’s that arevtruly hate-filled.
Somehow I don’t find the fact that his wife can be a lector in his parish worth destroying the Church that brought salvation to millions all over the world.
I grew up with the “old Church,” and even prior to VII, people in the US realized that more needed to be done in terms of outreach, since Catholic meant Irish, Italian, Hispanic or that weird group, “Midwest German Catholics.”
Vernacular masses were occasionally done in University parishes, and we had what was called the “dialogue mass,” where people said the responses and sang things like the Agnus Dei (in Latin). That’s was all most people expected the Council to approve and refine.
Nobody expected doctrinal changes, except for the pro-contraception and divorce crowd, and even they didn’t get what they wanted.
The whole Council was a farce and was taken over by leftist ideologues talking advantage of naive cardinals who were playing by the old rules. And Paul VI was at least complicit.
On this subject, Ross Douthat’s article is excellent and worth reading, and shows up this sappy, silly America article.
Look on the bright side - it was a woman.
That itself is not the problem, after all, mandated (OK, there are rare exceptions) clerical celibacy cannot be validated Scripturally (though you try) not other RC distinctives, but the liberal fantasy of a writer who wants to hold to them as well as modern RC revisionism is a problem both Bible Christians and TradCaths should find.
If you accept Vatican 2,
you think your church is alive.
If you reject Vatican 2,
you admit your church is dead.
You’ve got it wrong:
If you accept Vatican 2,
You’re a Modernist.
If you reject Vatican 2,
You’re a Catholic.
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