[Catholic Caucus] PiusX: Francis' Persecution of Mass Produced Record Year

Gloria TV ^ | October 12, 2022 | Gloria TV

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[Catholic Caucus] PiusX: Francis' Persecution of Mass Produced Record Year

The 2022/2023 seminary year of PiusX has been exceptionally successful.

• St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary, Dillwyn, USA. 28 entries: 25 Americans, 2 Canadians, 1 Brazilian.

• Herz-Jesu Seminary, in Zaitzkofen, Germany. 21 entries (pictured): 9 Polish, 6 German, 1 Austrian, 1 Croatian, 1 Danish, 1 Hungarian, 1 Dutch, 1 Serbian. This is the largest entry in this seminary since its creation.

• Saint-Curé d'Ars Seminary in Flavigny, France. 21 entries: 14 French, 2 Italians, 1 English, 1 Brazilian, 1 Indian, 1 Sri Lankan, 1 Swiss.

• Nostra Señora Corredentora Seminary, La Reja, Argentina. 9 entries: 2 Argentinians, 2 Brazilians, 2 Mexicans, 1 Chilean, 1 Nicaraguan, 1 Nigerian.

This represents a total of 79 entries over the calendar year, the highest number of entries in PiusX seminaries ever.

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Why would any young traditional male enter a seminary other than the SSPX or FSSP during Bergoglio's Reign of Terror?

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Ping

[SuperLuminal]

A bathhouse by any other name is still a bathhouse...

[PGR88]

LOL. Persecution is always how the Church grows stronger.

But its weird when the Pope is the one doing the persecuting.

[MurphsLaw]

STOP USING CATHOLIC CAUCUS FOR YOUR DECEPTION!

USE THE CORRECT SCHISMATIC HERETICAL DESIGNATION - SSPX.

It's spelled out very clearly in FR rules...

Your trying to dupe freepers into believing SSPX is a Catholic entity.
It is a entirely different, albeit copycat, heretical sect.

Misguided schismatics following one apostate M.L."Marcel" in the same way 500 years ago -
Lucifer won over another M.L. Martin Luther.

Stop using the Catholic Church to deceive your victims.

[dangus]

A state of schism exists between Rome and SSPX. But to call them “a[n] entirely different, albeit copycat heretical sect” is to commit three sins of calumny.

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... and actually, I should be more careful even asserting that a state of schism exists.

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I hesitate to post this because despite these statements, these same moral authorities warn of the grave danger of sin presented by reliance upon the SSPX, but:

“[T]hose faithful who, for various reasons, attend churches officiated by the priests of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, can validly and licitly receive the sacramental absolution of their sins.” — Pope Francis

“”It cannot be said in correct, exact, and precise terms that there is a schism.” — Cardinal Hoyos, President of the Pontifical Council Ecclesia Dei, authorized to judge on SSPX.

I’m truly confused by assertions that marriages performed by the SSPX are not only illicit but invalid, since the church recognizes the marriages of converts married in other denominations.

[Campion]

It is a entirely different, albeit copycat, heretical sect

Please list here the heresies which SSPX officially endorses.

(Note, not the heresies some people favorable to SSPX endorse. I'm specifically thinking of people who deny the validity of the NO Mass, which is a heresy against the dogma of the indefectability of the church. But SSPX, corporately, has never claimed that the NO is ipso facto invalid.)

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Do you know who Richard Williamson is ?

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[MurphsLaw]

No - has nothing to do with NO Mass.
That's a canard very similar to the agitprop misdirection that falsely attributes
Luther's schism with "Papal reform" and/or "Indulgences".

Lets define heretical first- as I know it is thrown around everywhere now.

But first- Do you believe Martin Luther was "heretical" ?

If you don't believe he was, then there's no need to discuss further.

If you do believe M.L. was heretical- What are the reasons you believe qualify his heresy?

[Campion]

ML, heresy has a very precise definition. It's spelled out clearly in canon law:

Can. 751 Heresy is the obstinate denial or obstinate doubt after the reception of baptism of some truth which is to be believed by divine and Catholic faith

You asked if I think Luther was heretical. Yes, I do. But I don't understand what your question about "reasons that qualify Luther's heresy" means.

If you're going to call SSPX "heretical," you should be able to specify exactly which dogmata (== things to be believed "with divine and Catholic faith") they reject. Not sure what a discussion of Luther has to do with that.

[dangus]

He’s one of the four SSPX bishops who were declared excommunicated, and if he’s the one I’m guessing he is, he’s the one whose excommunication was never declared to be invalid?

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Also, if he’s the right one, famous for being a relative holocaust denier...?

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It is a entirely different, albeit copycat, heretical sect.

Two things, Murph:

1. Lying is a sin.

2. Except for Bergoglio, I have never seen someone so uncharitable to her fellow Catholics as you. You are so full of hate, it's pitiful.

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So true!

Thanks for posting.

[MurphsLaw]

Only two things?

I thought #3 would be "posting trash" as you accuse me of...

Maybe if you followed the rules...
We wouldn't have these discussions...

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Maybe if you both dropped your hatred of your fellow Catholics and stopped worshipping Boobie Barron, we wouldn’t be having any discussions.

[MurphsLaw]

He’s one of the four SSPX bishops who were declared excommunicated, and if he’s the one I’m guessing he is, he’s the one whose excommunication was never declared to be invalid?

Yes, you are correct, and you are right to be confused on how to look at this. Most are- and I have come to learn that the confiusion is intentional.
Williamson was one of the four illegally, original "Bishops" ordained by a rogue French Lefbreve who rejected the Church Magisterium and conciliar doctrine.

Most mistake this group to be no longer excommunicated- and having jurisdiction- though irony alert here-
they- the- sspx then has "excommunicated" Williamson for anti-semitism and Disobedience a few years ago...

So this guy is still out there play-pretending to be a valid Bishop-
pulling people away from the One True Faith..
Has he started his own Church? Does he have believers?
Who knows… but the schism wlll roll on and on into the future...
with new flavors on the horizon in years to come... as it did 500 years ago. Once te process begins- it does not stop. Ever.