Posted on 09/20/2022 4:39:57 AM PDT by Gillibrand1
The Bishops of Flanders are opening the door to blessing gay couples. In doing so, they are going head-on against the Vatican. On Tuesday morning, they published a liturgy that can be used for this purpose. Just last March, the Vatican ruled that a church blessing of gay couples is forbidden because "God cannot bless sin".
According to Cardinal Jozef de Kesel and the other Flemish bishops, gay couples "often ask for a moment of prayer during pastoral encounters to ask God that He may bless and perpetuate this commitment of love and fidelity".
They are now, as far as is known, the first bishops in the world to explicitly give the green light for a church blessing. However, "the difference must remain clear from what the Church understands by a sacramental marriage", that is, a lifelong union between and man a a woman.
(Excerpt) Read more at cathcon.blogspot.com ...
In my opinion the correct response to “homosexual marriage” would have been to get government out of the marriage business entirely.
No tax benefit for marriage.
No inherent property sharing within marriage.
You can work out any deal you like but it should be done at an individual basis, with a lawyer, as a point of contract law. Yes, there is inherent government involvement there, but basically it should all be personal choice for each couple. Pre-nups and wills should be a part of life for anyone over the age of 18.
Actual marriage? That’s in a church, and it means something to God and to the two individuals who pledge themselves to each other in front of God. But, aside from that? Marriage means nothing within society. The homosexuals would have had no interest in this. And any decent church would have felt comfortable denying it: “The Bible says this is a sin. We can’t help you. But City Hall is two block over. Have a nice day.”
Yep, I think the same way. If we lived in a more moral society, having government involved in marriage could be useful. But today, the imprimatur of marriage is turned against us.
Why would any born-again, Spirit-filled, Word directed Christian, let alone Bishop, not know and understand this?
The Bishop needs to get saved and regardless of whether he repents - defrocked. Such an egregious lack of spiritual discernment speaks volumes about this Bishop. The Vatican is responsible for putting men like this in the office of Bishop. Then again, the Cardinals made Francis Pope, so why is anyone surprised about the fidelity of this Bishop and those like him.
In light of the RC past record on defrocking or excommunicating priests know to be perverts, my bet is that the Flanders Bishop will go on disobeying the Vatican and Francis will do nothing about it.
“Marriage means nothing within society.”
I respectfully disagree with this statement. Society exists largely to the degree tribal clashes can be minimized or avoided altogether. Marriage has a stabilizing effect when it legally and then biologically binds (through the children of that marriage) what might have been warring tribes. Marriage among same-sex couples does not involve that biological binding as any children of such a marriage necessitates severing the child from one or both biological tribes. When a relationship is bound only by legal means instead of biological, the binding is only a strong as the legal status. This is why heterosexual marriage deserves efforts to preserve it. Couples benefit, children benefits and society benefits down through the generations.
The Flemish bishops need to be reminded of St. John Chrysostom's words about the streets of hell being paved with the skulls of bishops.
Government should strongly encourage marriage and child-rearing with huge tax breaks. Parents deserve it because the children both grow up to pay taxes and to care for the parents.
Gay marriage should neither be recognized nor encouraged by the government because it is a net drain on society.
No taxpaying children are produced.
Apart from this, it is good that government encourage normal, not aberrant, behavior, in its laws. We need to get back to the state where gay marriage is outlawed.
In call legal matters, it is important to define the terms; read any legislative rule or even basic contracts. The reason for this is to avoid unintended interpretations. This was not done with marriage and the word “marriage.” And lefties take every opportunity to redefine terms to their liking, even now questioning the most basic words, such as “man” and “woman.”
Sadly, but importantly, it is time for legislators to define basic words that we all know the definitions of through tradition, history, and common sense.
Flemish bishops = queers in drag.
They are doing the "European" thing. As one read, "European Union Commission Declares ‘Future is Queer’."
Source: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/06/04/european-union-commission-declares-future-is-queer/
The "my genitals" "Pride" flag has had little in past history to point to as with any sense. A public "political" stance of being queer is not supportable in the long run. A population of queers only ceases to reproduce in a single generation, and so dies off. Those who dream of depopulation support this, while raging against children. It is a societal madness supported with much perverse money.
We can forget that there was corruption and apostacy in the early church as the famous quote from St. John Chrysostom attests.
"That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." - Ecclesiastes 1:9
Jude wrote an entire epistle dedicated to this issue.
Maybe this guy can be the Pope of the Episcopal Church. He sure can’t stay to the Catholic Church.
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