By The Stripes Of Jesus We Are Healed Now 3

In the first part we saw how your healing has been accomplished in the spiritual and because of what has been done in the spiritual you can receive what has been done in the spiritual, physical healing. We saw that because Jesus took your sins away he also took away your sicknesses and diseases in the spirit realm. Because it first has to be reality in the spirit realm before it can be reality in the physical. That's 1Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, when he bore one the other went with it. That's why Isaiah 53:4 says, Surely he hath borne our griefs(sicknesses and diseases),and carried our sorrows(pains and afflictions). See, he bore your sins and sicknesses. Because he couldn't take one and not the other so in the spirit sickness and disease have been taken away. And because they have been taken away spiritually you can receive the manifestation of that taking away, physical healing. In the second part we saw that your healing has been paid for with the precious blood of Jesus therefore you have a right to it and you are not waiting on God to do it, but he's waiting on you to receive it. And in this part that's what we will focus on receiving it. Because that's what it is all about you receiving, but people keep making it about God doing something.

Now, understand this about the spoken word it has the potential to go from (unseen/spiritual) to (seen/physical). Notice, 1 John 1:1,2 says, 1 That which was from the beginning (what was from the beginning, the word John 1:1 in the beginning was the word), which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;). Notice, what John 1:14 calls Jesus the word made flesh. Hebrews 11:3 says, Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. That's not just the word that comes out of God's mouth, but also out of your mouth. Jesus taught that in Luke 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Even God said in Isaiah 55:10,11 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: 11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. It returns back to him when you speak it. So, the word accomplishes out of your mouth. Jesus taught in Mark 4 the parable of the sower where Jesus taught that the word of God is the seed and the soil the place where the seed is sown is the spirit or heart of man. And he taught about the different types of soil and there was only one type of soil that brought forth fruit. Matthew 13:23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. So, it's important that you understand.

The word is not only described as the seed, but it's also described as the water Isa 55:10,11. Everyone understands in the natural the seeds you plant and water will become the thing. The same principle applies in the spirit the word you plant and water will become the thing. God taught that same principle in connection to healing in Proverbs 4:1,20-23 Hear, ye children, the instruction of a father, and attend to know understanding. My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings. 21 Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart. 22 For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh. 23 Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life. That word life is taken from a word that means-to revive, make alive, give life, restore to life. That word health is translated medicine, healing, remedy, cure. So, the word of healing planted and watered on the inside will become healing in the body. That's what Abraham did, God had him put the word in him and that word of life became life to his body. He changed their names to what he promised. He changed their names from Abram- high father to Abraham-father of a multitude and from Saria-My princess to Sarah- princess of nations and the word accomplished when it came out there mouths.

Ending statement: Did Jesus say the word is seed, yes. Then understand this every seed represents a finished work. Because a seed has to come from something and the thing that it came from is in it, so healing is in the word. Notice again the principle when the provision is made responsibility shifts, once God gave Adam the seeds of his finished work in Genesis 1:29 it was in Adams hands to bring any more trees into the earth/it was in mans hands not Gods. God supplied the seed, but the seed has to be sown and watered. By his stripes you were healed, the provision has been made.

It is not God's will that any should perish. And I wouldn't want to end this article without giving someone the opportunity to receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior. It's very easy just pray: Dear God- I know I have sinned and I now turn from them and I invite Jesus to come into my heart (Revelation 3:20). He died for my sins and you have raised him from the dead and I now confess that Jesus is my Lord and Savior (Romans 10:9,10). I thank you for saving me, Amen

It would take a day and a half to go through it all, but you are correct, Mark: this is wrong.

The quoted words of Isaiah are to the nation with whom God has a covenantal relationship. Jesus did nothing but that which was prophesied He would, and He made it clear for whom He came: Israel, as per prophecy. His ministry was always the Kingdom. We are the church according to the mystery revealed to Paul by our Lord Christ Jesus AFTER His death and resurrection.

Most of the time, the mistake is made innocently enough that the two are confused because the Church is called Spiritual Israel. That too, however, should make plain that we’re not physical Israel to whom the Isaiah verses were written.

Does God always heal His children? Ask our apostle, the Apostle Paul, and he will tell you no, for God said to him, “My grace is sufficient for thee.” Were God to always heal me, I would not die. I would live in this world a lot longer than I want to be here: forever. No thanks.

Having first sips of first coffee. Hope this makes sense.

2 Timothy 4:20 Erastus remained at Corinth, and I left Trophimus, who was ill, at Miletus.

1 Timothy 5:23 No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.

The Scriptural pattern for prayer for healing is given us BY GOD here in James, and it does not include name it and claim it, WoF heresy and blaming.

James 5:15-16 And the prayer of faith will save the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 1Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed.

I always have to wonder how WoF people deal with Exodus 4:10-11 “ But Moses said to the Lord, “Oh, my Lord, I am not eloquent, either in the past or since you have spoken to your servant, but I am slow of speech and of tongue.” Then the Lord said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Who makes him mute, or deaf, or seeing, or blind? Is it not I, the Lord?”

So I asked a name it and claim it, God owes you healing, always does it, and if you’re not healed, it’s your fault type, and all he did was get angry with me.

>> It is not God's will that any should perish. <<

Well done in your three-part message, Frank. I've been following it, waiting to read the whole telling.

Isaiah has some very fine Spirit-inspired Words regarding it:

Isaiah 28:9-14 (AV):
⁹Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
¹⁰For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
¹¹For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
¹²To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
¹³But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
¹⁴Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.

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Keep it up. open, and simple to grasp like this message, Frank (which means straightforward, not hidden in meaning)! The unsaved natural soulish man cannot receive the deep things of the Spirit, even when spoken by Him, for they are discerned by the spiritually mature human who has access to the Mind of Jesus. He Only is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and provides new birth and access to His Father.

Appreciate your contribution, and taking heed to it.

A new broom sweeps clean, Frank; but the "old Broom" knows all the corners!

A BIG problem in Christianity is not realizing the AUDIENCE each book is written to.
Or to whom each blessing or curse is addressed.

You, You, Only You

As if God wouldn't know how to apply ingenuity to make and end run around all the slackers. He'll use whoever can be trusted to deliver the messages, even a talking donkey.

(When a little child, Alvis Owens matter-of-factly told his family that his name was Buck, naming himself after the family donkey.)

It's like with all the end-timer experts who teach that America is nowhere to be found in Bible prophecy.

If they woke up tomorrow with their heads sewn to the carpet, they wouldn't be more surprised.

But but but... we waved our flags! We sang God Bless America! We even decried the Deep State and voted for Donald Trump!

Yeah well whatever, I never knew you. Not one spark of Can-Do ingenuity, just steaming piles of craftily manipulated arguments masquerading as solutions.

>> It would take a day and a half to go through it all, but you are correct, Mark: this is wrong. <<

I've been through it, SC, and calling you to take the longer view. Frank Broom's three segments to this long meditation seem to me to be quite right, as I have read them through.

God in His Son does heal in the temporal dimension just the way He desires. We all need to study the doctrine of the Ways in which it is implemented, both at Jesus' time and before; in the interim time to ratify the apostleship of the New Testament authors and church-planters; and in this current time period that the progressive revelation of Written Scriptures has been fully completed, not to be added to, that renders the Word(s) of Life to us.

For the sin-sick depraved hopeless original-sin-tainted human, The Father's Gracious Unmerited Salvation does it all, to heal the believer and reborn child for ever from death. But to continue in the Everlasting Life, on the journey of it we all must pass through physical death, no matter how few or many times we have experienced temporary restoration to healthy function, even if one is physically alive at the instantaneously moment that the Premillennial Rapture takes place.

Here are is the core Scriptures applying to Frank Broom's theme to which your comment is directed ("It is not God's will that any should perish"), under consideration also by other respondents:

Isaiah 53:3-6 (AV; bolding and underlining applied for emphasis)
³He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
⁴Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
⁵But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
⁶All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
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1 Peter 2:21-26 (AV; bolding and underlining for emphasis)
²¹For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
²²Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
²³Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him^{His Father and Judge} that judgeth righteously:
²⁴Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
²⁵For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls^{as Owner and Master}.
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Please take a moment and dwell on these passages. What makes you think that Isaiah was writing only to the people observing the Jewish religion under the Mosaic/Davivic Covenant? Was that Covenant not abrogated, abolished through Jesus' saving life and death as God Incarnate? Is not His Personal servant Simon bar Jonah addressing not only regenerated dispersed Jews, but also faith-reborn Gentiles adopted as wild branches into the spiritual tree of the constituents of His Church Of The First-Born that was already in existence before Hebrews 12:23 was written years after Pentecost?

Is not every regenerated child of The Heavenly Father and saved/justified/sanctified by Him already healed from the sin-sickness that would have taken us to Hades and the Lake of Fire?

In this temporal phase of the life of each of us has He not saved us from sickness and death that we may continue to be saved and to serve Him at His predetermined schedule for each? Though there me occasions through our lifetime, has He not preserved us from danger and death that Satan's will would have kept us in his company of depraved humans except for the gift of salvation? Do we not pray even now for Jesus to minister healing and health to both unsaved and saved acquaintances? Are we asking truly of His Providential works, or is it just a hypocritical request that we do not really expect God to honor? Eh?

In the end of this temporal existence, no matter how times each one of us has avoided sickness or been healed from it, are not each of us required to be separated from this physical body of one's birth DNA, to later receive--still spiritually alive--a new body for our everlasting life in Christ.

It seems to me that Frank Broom has covered these aspects, without demanding that God MUST heal us from each temporal injury or sickness that befalls us, although beyond question He does both heal or even miraculously prevent many occasions of disappointment of our earthly existence.

It does not appear to me that here Broom is teaching of the false Kathryn Kuhlman or Benny Hinn or Pat Robertson's charismatic approach, which is supposedly that one's failure to get healing is through a lack of "enough faith"; not exercising intense importinuity; or because of still habitually engaged in sinfulness, lacking repentance.

If I am wrong in this assumption, I hope that Frank will correct me, eh?

How about cutting Frank Broom some slack? (You might also look up some of his other meditations that appeared here.)

“For the sin-sick depraved hopeless original-sin-tainted human, The Father’s Gracious Unmerited Salvation does it all, to heal the believer and reborn child for ever from death.”

Quite true, Imardmd1. You get no argument from me on that point, but that was not the intent of my post and I think you surely misunderstood it. Nonetheless, I can appreciate your view and I appreciate the time it took to prepare your response.

The problem referred to is the word of faith movement in which God will give you what you want: cars, healing, money, etc. I don’t find that to be the truth anymore than I find it that God will heal every sickness and disease brought before Him in prayer by His own children. I pray for many every day for healing, but it’s His decision whether or not to do so.

I stand by my point, Imardmd1, that this position is harmful to newcomers to Christianity in that when God doesn’t help them in a matter, they struggle with faith because they’ve been told God WILL do this and WILL do that or that they already “own” it and just need to claim it. Blab it and grab it, in other words.

It’s damaging to the Body of Christ and is an insult to faithful Christians who struggle with health problems on a daily basis. Their faith is no less than that of the person God chose for His own purposes to heal. I would go further to state that, in fact, their faith may be stronger for not being healed and continuing in their faith with illness day-to-day.

I have enjoyed many of Frank Broom’s posts on FR, but that doesn’t mean that I must agree with every point of view. If another believer has a different point to be made and it is not a salvific issue, there should no insult be taken.

Again, Imardmd1, thank you for your response.

Obviously, we are not healed as part of the death of Christ… and it will include a resurrected/transformed body.

Now listen to the simple wisdom of JVM…this is a bit long, but necessary.

First Matthew explains that Christ’s healing of the blind, and lame, and deaf, fulfilled this prophecy:

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“That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses [Mt 8:17].

“This quotation is from Isa 53:4. Probably this verse is used by so-called faith healers more than any other verse. They claim that physical healing is in the Atonement, and they use this verse to support their position.

“Let’s turn the pages back to Isaiah and look at this verse, because I do not believe it gives sanction to the modern healing movement at all. “Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed” (Isa 53:4-5). Of what are we healed? This passage from Isaiah clearly states that we are healed of our transgressions and iniquities. You say to me, “Are you sure about that?” I know this is what these verses are talking about because Peter says: “Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed” (1Pe 2:24). Healed of what? “Sins.” Peter is making it very clear that he is talking about sin.

“All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all” (Isa 53:6). It was your iniquity and mine which was laid upon Him. Obviously, Isaiah is referring to the fact that Christ would grapple with the great fundamental problem of sin. To contend that healing is in the Atonement is beside the point. So is a glorified body in the Atonement, but I don’t have mine yet. Do you?

—> “Also, a new earth with the curse removed is in the Atonement of Christ, but it is obvious that we do not have these yet. In this day when sin and Satan still hold sway, there is no release from sickness as an imperative of the Atonement. Why did Paul urge Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach? Why didn’t he urge him to get his healing in the Atonement? Why didn’t James urge the saints to claim the Atonement when he asked them to call in the elders to pray? (see Jas 5:13-15). Why didn’t Paul claim healing in the Atonement when he mentioned the fact that there was given to him a thorn in the flesh?<—

“And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me” (2Co 12:7-9, italics mine).

There are other examples recorded concerning this subject. Paul, in Philippians, had a regular hospital on his hands.

—> Epaphroditus had been ill (see Phl 2:25-27), and Paul did not use the Atonement to claim healing.<—

“My friend, we need to face the fact that it is not always God’s will to heal.

“However, sometimes it is God’s will to heal. Instead of going to a tent or an auditorium where healing services are advertised, why don’t you go directly to the Great Physician, the Lord Jesus Christ? Find out if the healing is in His will for you. I believe in divine healing but not in so-called divine healers. Instead of going to an individual down here on earth who claims to have power, I prefer to take my case to the Great Physician and say with the leper, “If thou wilt, thou canst make me clean” (v. 2). Then whether we are healed or not healed, He gets the glory. And we want Him to have that.

—> “Apparently, Paul knew nothing of this modern cultism of seeking healing in the Atonement. God can and does heal today, but not through so-called faith healers.<—

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Selah

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