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The Abolitionist John Brown is no model for Christian engagement
Christian Post ^ | 07/27/2022 | Mark Tooley

Posted on 07/28/2022 2:16:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: HandyDandy; PghBaldy; DiogenesLamp
Bearing in mind what the man himself very publicly wrote:

“My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views. I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free. Yours,
A. Lincoln

Italics by me.

41 posted on 07/28/2022 5:45:21 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Life is what you make it.)
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To: HandyDandy
"The discerning reader will no doubt recognize which link is from lost causer mythology."
The inherited sin of slavery is destroying us as a free people. My grandfather was a teenager during the Civil War. His father, as a second son because of primogeniture laws of the time was landless. His mother, who died before the Civil War passed as white, but had African slave ancestry. Her dowry included about 500 hundred acres farm land, a large house on the Potomac, six slave, one of whom was her half sister and close companion, whom the family maintained as part of the family after the Civil War. Things are usually a little more complex than as history portrays.
42 posted on 07/28/2022 6:30:46 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: SeekAndFind

So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God(Rom 10:17). An autodidact is not a Christian scholar. They have existed in every generation and the result has always been underwhelming. Would you trust a surgeon who claimed to have learned his trade by reading medical books apart from instruction? Of course not!


43 posted on 07/28/2022 6:55:08 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: georgecorgi

No, I said just the opposite - that none of those acts could be squared with Scripture.

You aren’t naturally this stupid. Please stop working at it so hard.


44 posted on 07/29/2022 12:32:27 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: EnderWiggin1970

Whether it is in accord with scripture or not is of no moment to the victims of massive genocide inspired by the Roman Church.


45 posted on 07/29/2022 1:13:50 PM PDT by georgecorgi
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To: Nifster
Rand was an ardent atheist. She worshipped man

That's why I said her recipe was incomplete. Mankind is inherently spiritual.

46 posted on 07/29/2022 1:28:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

Mankind is fundamentally fallen. We need God to overcome that


47 posted on 07/29/2022 2:01:13 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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