Posted on 06/28/2022 3:56:22 PM PDT by ebb tide
(LifeSiteNews) – The Vatican Synod on Synodality quoted in its “Towards a Spirituality for Synodality” document a declaration that a “merciful heart” is “on fire for the whole of creation,” including “demons.”
He pointed out that St. Thomas Aquinas has specifically and decisively answered the question of whether we should “love demons” in his Summa Theologica:
“In the sinner, we are bound, out of charity, to love his nature, but to hate his sin. But the name of demon is given to designate a nature deformed by sin, wherefore demons should not be loved out of charity,” Aquinas wrote.
Aquinas further wrote that “it is impossible for us, out of charity, to desire the good of everlasting life, to which charity is referred, for those spirits whom God has condemned eternally, since this would be in opposition to our charity toward God whereby we approve of His justice.”
The document, which was prepared by members of the synod’s “Spirituality Commission subgroup,” states, “Discernment, then, is also an opening of the heart in love and mercy to all things. As St. Isaac of Nineveh (St. Isaac the Syrian) expresses it:
‘What is a merciful heart? It is a heart on fire for the whole of creation, for humanity, for the birds, for the animals, for demons, and for all that exists. By the recollection of them, the eyes of a merciful person pour forth tears in abundance.’”
“The real danger here is in Francis, or in Francis’ writers for the synodal document taking what St. Isaac the Syrian said out of context,” commented Anthony Stine of the Return to Tradition podcast. “What he did is he presented this in such a way that it makes it look like the church says we are to love that which is most evil in all creation.”
Father John Zuhlsdorf, known by his blog nickname “Fr. Z,” shed some light on why St. Isaac the Syrian would make a statement like this by pointing out that he believed in apokatastasis, that is, the eventual salvation of all creatures, including the damned and the demons. The doctrine was condemned as heterodox by the Catholic Church in one of the anathemas of the Council of Constantinople in 543:
“If anyone says or holds that the punishment of demons and impious human beings is temporary and that it will have an end at some time, and that there will be a restoration of demons and impious human beings, let him be anathema.” (The Anathemas of the Emperor Justinian Against Origen)
Father Aidan Kimel speculates that St. Isaac the Syrian believed in apokatastasis because the 7th century Syrian canon of the Bible, the Peshitta, did not contain the Book of Revelation, which makes clear that damnation lasts for eternity: “And the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulphur, where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever” (Rev 20:10).
Without going so far as to claim that Pope Francis, by allowing the publishing of this synodal document, “believes we are to love demons,” Stine noted he is “the one who … tried to conflate a demon with Our Lady,” by presenting the Pachamama idol in the Vatican — that is, a figure of a pregnant woman who represents a pagan fertility goddess — toward which Vatican visitors from the Amazon region prostrated themselves in 2019. Scripture makes clear the pagan gods are demons (Deut 32:16-17; Psalm 95:5; Psalm 106:34-38; 1 Cor 10:20-22).
“Did he do it knowingly? That remains to be seen. I’ll leave that judgment call up to you,” Stine continued in his commentary.
Stine views the synodal document quote as part of the Vatican’s trend of “more modernism, more overt rejection of the deposit of faith, more ‘Dare we hope all men are saved’ — and I guess in this case, demons.”
Fr. Z concluded in his commentary, “Put enough of these comments into enough documents or speeches, and the cumulative effect over time will manifest itself. It’s going to look a lot like a demon, too.”
Without going so far as to claim that Pope Francis, by allowing the publishing of this synodal document, “believes we are to love demons,” Stine noted he is “the one who … tried to conflate a demon with Our Lady,” by presenting the Pachamama idol in the Vatican — that is, a figure of a pregnant woman who represents a pagan fertility goddess — toward which Vatican visitors from the Amazon region prostrated themselves in 2019. Scripture makes clear the pagan gods are demons (Deut 32:16-17; Psalm 95:5; Psalm 106:34-38; 1 Cor 10:20-22).
Ping
You can love your dog, but if you can’t stop it from attacking everything, even you sometimes, you know what has to be done.
I’ve wondered what happens if a demon want to repent. Lucifer mislead 1/3 of angels. Some of them have got to have woken up and realized they were played for fools.
Unlike humans, Angels have infused knowledge and perfect control of their will. Therefore once the fallen Angel’s made a choice against the will of God, there is no chance of repentance.
So, the Catholic Church has become pretty much the same as Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormons.
So, you’re still on drugs, huh?
I’d sure have to be to have any faith in the Catholic Church. But you go with those demons. Bwahahahaha.
Logical, but I don’t actually see that in scripture.
They have knowledge but it must be imperfect.
What do you mean by “perfect” control of their will? Does man have perfect control of his? They must have free will because 1/3 chose to follow Lucifer. How are they any different than man in that regard. Except I think they have seen the Father.
I certainly see no mention of the opportunity for repentance for the fallen angels in scripture, but I’m not certain that means there is none.
Paul said that man would judge angels. I don’t know what that means. Other verses say God will judge the fallen angels.
1 Corinthians 6:2–3 — King James Version (KJV 1900)
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
Hallucinogenics, I see.
I’m sure a lot of human souls in Hell also wish they had a second chance.
Problem is they had their full lifetimes to do so and they didn’t.
Their choice.
I used to perplex youth Sunday School questions with the question: If Satan repents, can he be saved? (Of course not - angelic beings have no souls so they can’t be redeemed). My understanding is that Satan and his angels made their choice and can’t change it, so I draw the line at “loving” them. I’ll go pity, but no more.
Or maybe the pope’s demons. Bwahahahaha.
Hah. I’ll go with my good friend Tommy A. over the dummies currently infesting the Vatican.
Christ Jesus did not die for them, only man, so they are done for.
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