Posted on 06/18/2022 7:05:28 PM PDT by marshmallow
The Bishop of Limerick has refused to say if he would ordain a woman priest.
The prevarication comes after a survey found that the majority of Irish Catholics would support such a move - upending thousands of years of Church tradition and teaching.
Most worshipers also want more respect to be shown to LGBT people and those who are divorced or single parents.
Speaking to The Pat Kenny Show, Bishop Brendan Leahy stressed the huge respect he had for women but was unwilling to say if they should be priests:
“Anyone who knows me knows I have greatly been influenced by major significant women in the life of the Church,” he explained.
“That is something that for me which has always been important. Whatever the Church understands and moves ahead with, for instance, we do know that Pope Francis at the moment has a commission on the whole question of the ordination of deacons.
“So whatever comes out of that I would go along with.”
He continued:
“[Former Pope] John Paul has already indicated in a directive [that women should not be ordained], so that’s something I take as a directive from John Paul.
“But that does not exclude much greater study of the whole visibility, role, place of women, not just in decision making but in the presence of the life of the Church.”
(Excerpt) Read more at newstalk.com ...
We are being led by weak-kneed women like Dope Frances.
They are leading us to the gates of Hell.
Hmmm, what do you think, bro? 😂🤗😃
There once was a Bishop from Limerick...
Ask Doug from Upland to do a limerick on this.
Ref post 4, that’s what me and Elsie do best. 🤗😀
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The Consecration is a marital act.
Barnhardt (a convert, completely non-credentialed, but hits this one out of the park).
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Why Priests Must Be Men Part 2 of 3
The priest puts his elbows down on the altar because the altar is A MARRIAGE BED, and the act of consecration is the consummation of the nuptial union between God and man, but in that moment the condescension of God is so utterly complete that God becomes, just for a moment, the feminine responder to the masculine initiating action of man who says the words of consecration. The priest lovingly holds the Host in his hands beneath him atop the supernatural marriage bed of the altar, leans over, looks intently at the Host and whispers, “HOC EST ENIM CORPUS MEUM / This is My Body,”† and then with the Chalice, “HIC EST ENIM CALIX SANGUINIS MEI / For this is the Chalice of My Blood.” And then, in the hands of and lying completely vulnerable to man in the supreme act of loving response, is Our Lord, physically present, Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.
So, for the sake of clarity, YES, the consecration of the Host and Chalice in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is a direct analogue to sexual intercourse between husband and wife. There. I said it. That wasn’t so difficult, now was it? Goodness. In fact, the consecration is the GREATER REALITY, and the marital act between husband and wife is the LESSER REALITY which reflects and points to the greater reality of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. And, it works both ways. After the consecration, Our Lord goes right back to being the masculine initiator and the priest and the faithful become the normal relative feminine in relation to God in our nature as human beings as we RECEIVE Our Lord by taking Him physically into our bodies in the Eucharist, of which the marital embrace is also an image, only with the gender roles the other way.
The nuptial nature of the Mass was known immediately to the Apostles at the Last Supper. In the ancient Jewish tradition, at marriage feasts, the husband and wife would each take a piece of bread, and each would take turns holding the bread up, saying, “Eat this. This is my body,” and then hand-feeding the piece of bread to the spouse. Where do you think the tradition of the bride and groom feeding each other a piece of the wedding cake at the reception comes from? So when Our Lord said, “This is My Body,” the Apostles all instantly understood the mystical nuptial act that was going on, because they had seen it before at their own weddings and/or weddings they had attended.
Do you now see why sexual morality is so utterly, critically important, and why the Church has always, and must continue to always preach the extreme importance of sexual morality? Do you now see why sexual perversion is so damaging to mankind? Do you now see why marriage is truly, truly SACRED and not a mere point of civil contract law? Do you see why divorce is evil? Do you see why divorce and remarriage is intolerable? Do you see why sex outside of marriage is gravely sinful? Do you see why masturbation is gravely sinful? Do you see why sodomy and all of the other sexual perversions are so evil that they literally destroy entire civilizations? Do you see why contraception is evil?
Sex between a husband and wife is so incredibly important, so incredibly beautiful and so incredibly sacred not solely because it is the means of creating new life, but first because it is the mystical image of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, of God’s infinite love for man. It is one of the most important ways by which humankind can understand the Trinity, and understand the mystical union between God and His Church, and between God and men as individuals.
Oh, and do you now see why the priest must, must, must be a man? In order for this moment of loving condescension of God to man to happen, the human initiator must be a man, leaning over and atop his God who responds and lays in perfect receptivity upon the altar. There must always be that contrast, that juxtaposition of masculine and feminine. If God is going to condescend all the way to the feminine in that moment, then there cannot be a female at the altar, because a woman cannot be the image of the masculine, no matter how tight she wears her crewcut, or how butch her comportmen
There once was a Bishop from Limerick...
Who was coy about who he would pick.
He said,”To be fair,
with a lady in there,
it will no longer be a bishopric.”
bttt
Elsie, seems like we are not the only limerickers here. 😀🤭🤗😃
Ireland went from being a fervently Catholic country to openly embracing neo paganism in less than twenty five years. The Catholic Churrch lost most of its moral authority with many when the homosexual perversity within the clergy was shown to be pervasive especially in semanaries , schools and among the hierarchy.
I deleted the limerick I was writing and bow before your excellent rhyming.
It’s easy, back-of-the-napkin analysis to say that the Church in Ireland has failed due to sex abuse. In reality, the cultural rot is deeper and more complicated than that. Ireland has long been a very conformist country with a sort of inferiority complex. In the 1950s, “conformism” meant showing up at Mass on Sunday and presenting one’s self to neighbors as a faithful Catholic. By the early ‘90s, “conformism” meant embracing a secular lifestyle and not showing up at Mass on Sunday.
The Catholic bishop of Limerick
Was asked if he could ordain a chick
He said, “I might at least
Make her a priest
But a woman can never have a bishopric.”
We were thinking along the same lines I guess.
Hey. They just came to terms about how to handle references to the gentleman from Nantuckett.
Irish Grail Christianity certainly did so before Irish Catholicism was placed under the direct control of Rome.Women priests were very much a part of the ancient druidic culture that Catholicism replaced.Irish Grail Curch continued to appoint women priests until the Irish Grail Church was placed under papal control.
So wheres the beef? Get on with it and appoint female priests once again.
I knew this thread was going to veer off into the weeds in short order. LOL
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