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To: spacejunkie2001
You cannot support doctrine opposite of God and it not matter deeply to HIM.

I don't support abortion. And I'm sure it matters deeply to Him.

But is He going to kick out everyone from His church who didn't have a perfectly clear understanding of every doctrine. Or is He going to keep His promise that whosoever believes on Him shall have everlasting life?

Maybe I missed the part about that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Unless they believe abortion is okay, and then they are dammed to hellfire.

There are a lot of Christians that disagree on abortion.

There were Christians in the New Testament who disagreed on whether it was okay to eat meat that had been sacrificed to idols. No where did it say that one group wasn't Christian because of the stand they took.

41 posted on 06/01/2022 3:08:59 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

The bible is pretty clear on what happens if you harm one of his little ones.


46 posted on 06/01/2022 3:17:51 PM PDT by roving (Blue Lives Matter More Than Children)
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To: DannyTN

I’m certain this pastor is speaking of the unrepentant which, unfortunately, are rampant in our churches today. Church doctrine has been watered down and tainted and it’s about time we see church leaders step up and tell people the truth. The church NEEDS to be purged of people that live openly sinful lives and then pretend they are believers. Nothing could be worse for the Witness of Christ than that. See below how Paul handled a sinner in the church. This needs to happen across our nation. Not to the repentant but the UNrepentant.

https://yearinthebible.com/2013/07/10/why-does-paul-instruct-the-church-in-corinth-to-expel-the-sinner-in-chapter-5/

Why Does Paul Instruct the Church in Corinth to Expel the Sinner in Chapter 5?
When Paul says to cast the man out of the church who is sleeping with his father’s wife, it is important to remember everything that he says, lest we miss his point. He begins in verse four with:

Let him who has done this be removed from among you.

But that is not all. A couple verses later he adds:

When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.

This is not punishment for no purpose. Paul instructs the church in a way to enact discipline on this man for two reasons. What we see in the verse quoted above is “so that his spirit may be saved.” It is the difference between a strictly punitive action and a restorative one. Paul wants the church to, by their expulsion of him, restore his soul. If he wants to be part of the body again, he’ll have to turn from this sin. He can’t just go to the more open-minded church around the block in Corinth. This is his fellowship to which he would seek to restored.

Dough

The other purpose in casting out this man, a man who has sinned in such a way that even the extremely permissive Roman society would condemn him, is to guard the body of believers. His sin is not harmless. It is like a leaven that makes it way into the whole dough. Paul wants to protect this people who he cares greatly about. He’s already compared himself to a mother and a father in his relationship to them. He knows that if this influence remains it will affect the whole church.

So rather than recommend what may have been a Jewish judgment of incest, stoning, or delivering this man before Roman courts for the Roman law he has broken, Paul instructs the body to do something that may save the man’s spirit on the day of the Lord and will protect the life and witness of the church in Corinth.

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48 posted on 06/01/2022 3:23:08 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: DannyTN
Call it abortion, or sacrificing your child to Baal, it is all the same thing.

Either way, you cannot serve GOD and Baal at the same time. Either you follow Christ or you follow Baal, you decide.

I chose Christ.

Now I may not kick them out of the church, but they will not be called a brother in Christ until they resent of their sin of worshiping and sacrificing to Baal.

As such they are not allowed to participate in communion.

Plus, they better be ready for me to preach even Sunday that they are as much as sinner as Jeffery Dahmer was for being gay, killing his queer one night stand lovers, and eating their flesh.

If they can come to church every Sunday and hear me say that about them, then they can keep coming, but they are not Christians, and they will be told that every week.

71 posted on 06/01/2022 4:11:50 PM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: DannyTN
But is He going to kick out everyone from His church who didn't have a perfectly clear understanding of every doctrine. Or is He going to keep His promise that whosoever believes on Him shall have everlasting life?

This goes beyond just a matter of doctrine.

It’s not like abortion is a disputable matter as Paul references in Romans 14.

Abortion is murder, plain and simple, and a very gruesome, inhumane one at that.

It is not a matter of just opinion.

Read about what God has to say about the Israelites who murdered their firstborn by burning them alive to Molech.

He’s right on this one and I wish more pastors would take such a stand to protect the lives of the u born.

80 posted on 06/01/2022 4:35:50 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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To: DannyTN

Your concern ver the welfare of the others folks is well placed.

One must be careful in ‘getting rid’ of certain bad apples lest the ripening ones left behind get damaged in the process.


113 posted on 06/01/2022 6:53:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DannyTN; Roman_War_Criminal
But is He going to kick out everyone from His church who didn't have a perfectly clear understanding of every doctrine.

Where does it say that he was kicking people out of his church?

Ironically, Catholicism is technically supposed to ex-communicate anyone who supports abortion, and I don’t see the level of condemnation for them doing it as I do for Christians doing it.

127 posted on 06/01/2022 7:33:13 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…..)
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