Posted on 03/06/2022 9:44:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Interesting how quickly the poster illustrates the blindness created by ‘Catholic Traditions’ inculcated ... and the poster will not be able to see how his/her assertions are illustrating the blockage to the heart.
In Duet 32:39 states that God allowed death to humans as a temporal punishment to Adam and Eve for the original sin and consequently to all humans.
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Not quite. God HIMSELF is speaking. Nothing about allowing. He says “I Kill.”
Deut. 32:39
American Standard Version (and others are similar)
See now that I, even I, am he, And there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal; And there is none that can deliver out of my hand.
Comment: “Interesting how quickly the poster illustrates the blindness created by ‘Catholic Traditions’ inculcated ... and the poster will not be able to see how his/her assertions are illustrating the blockage to the heart.”
Apparently protestants can call God evil or created evil and blame others.
Bad translation from heretics “He says “I Kill.”
“It is I who brings both death and life” Not the same as kill, and death is still temporary as there is eternal life in Hell or Heaven.
Open your heart to the Holy Spirit so that you may understand God’s message and not follow false prophets.
The New American Bible states as “I create weal and woe” Quite different than evil.
Why do you hate those who are not followers of your religious ORG which is constructed as a christian lookalike? And just so you hear it AGAIN, I do not hate Catholics like you, I pity them, because they are trapped in the largest cult of our times, catholicism, with the worship of the Mother of Jesus (don't lie, your devotion is worship as you pray for her to intercede); with your blasphemous p[riesthood; with your blasphemous rituals which defy the clear commands from God regarding eating the blood. And there are many more points but to post them again is not going to get through the darkness at the heart of catholicism's entrapment of your spirit. Yes, I pity you and hate your false christianity.
Your question: “Why do you hate those who are not followers of your religious ORG which is constructed as a christian lookalike?”
First, The Catholic Church was established by Jesus Christ with the Mass and the Sacraments for our salvation (yours and mine). God revealed His Plan of Loving Goodness and transmitted Divine Revelation through the Apostles and entrusted the “Sacred Deposit” of faith to the whole of the Church.
You can either accept Jesus Christ, His Sacraments, His teachings and His Catholic Church or reject them. All have a choice. Your choice?
Second, On what basis do you assume and state that I hate anyone and protestants?
Your comment:”You exposed your blindness the more: “Apparently protestants can call God evil or created evil and blame others.”
That came from the protestant bible and posted on FR. Do you accept or reject that Bible translation:
“Then I looked at Deut. 32:39 American Standard Version
See now that I, even I, am he, And there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal; And there is none that can deliver out of my hand.”
“Isaiah 45–7.. I form the Light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things..”
So do you accept the protestant Bible that claims God created evil?
Third, You claim not to hate Catholics but to pity them because they are part of the largest cult (Webster’s: a system of religious beliefs and rituals) that are the Christians that have followed Christ for 2000 years and spread the Good News of the Gospel and Baptism throughout the world.
Yet you profane the name of the Blessed Mother of God and falsely claim that the Catholic faith teaches us to worship Mary, has a blasphemous priesthood and rituals that includes the Eucharist! Obviously, they are your biased opinions without any factual evidence to support your false claims.
You can read the Catholic Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 484-511 and 971) that we do not adore or worship Mary as we adore and glorify Jesus, the Almighty Father and the Holy spirit.
The Sacraments and the Priesthood was established for our benefit to help us on the path to salvation. (CCC 1066-1666 and 874-896)
Jesus said “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you;” “ For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.” “But there are some of you that do not believe.” (John 6)
Obviously, you do not believe and consequently you have no life in you.
This has been explained many times to you and is clearly stated in the Gospels and preached by the Catholic faith.
If you follow the false prophets and false beliefs of the protestant faiths, you will jeopardize your salvation. There is certainly some truth in the protestant beliefs and some false teaching and beliefs such as sola scriptura, once saved, always saved, denial of the Sacraments and the Euchrist, etc.
You may not like my comments or believe me, but I do love God with my whole heart and soul and I pray for my neighbors that they will understand God’s Truth and join Him in Heaven.
God’s Peace be with you. I truly hope you find the narrow gate and not take the easy path.
Your question: “Why do you hate those who are not followers of your religious ORG which is constructed as a christian lookalike?”
First, The Catholic Church was established by Jesus Christ with the Mass and the Sacraments for our salvation (yours and mine). God revealed His Plan of Loving Goodness and transmitted Divine Revelation through the Apostles and entrusted the “Sacred Deposit” of faith to the whole of the Church.
You can either accept Jesus Christ, His Sacraments, His teachings and His Catholic Church or reject them. All have a choice. Your choice?
Second, On what basis do you assume and state that I hate anyone and protestants?
Your comment:”You exposed your blindness the more: “Apparently protestants can call God evil or created evil and blame others.”
That came from the protestant bible and posted on FR. Do you accept or reject that Bible translation:
“Then I looked at Deut. 32:39 American Standard Version
See now that I, even I, am he, And there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal; And there is none that can deliver out of my hand.”
“Isaiah 45–7.. I form the Light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things..”
So do you accept the protestant Bible that claims God created evil?
Third, You claim not to hate Catholics but to pity them because they are part of the largest cult (Webster’s: a system of religious beliefs and rituals) that are the Christians that have followed Christ for 2000 years and spread the Good News of the Gospel and Baptism throughout the world.
Yet you profane the name of the Blessed Mother of God and falsely claim that the Catholic faith teaches us to worship Mary, has a blasphemous priesthood and rituals that includes the Eucharist! Obviously, they are your biased opinions without any factual evidence to support your false claims.
You can read the Catholic Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC 484-511 and 971) that we do not adore or worship Mary as we adore and glorify Jesus, the Almighty Father and the Holy spirit.
The Sacraments and the Priesthood was established for our benefit to help us on the path to salvation. (CCC 1066-1666 and 874-896)
Jesus said “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you;” “ For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.” “But there are some of you that do not believe.” (John 6)
Obviously, you do not believe and consequently you have no life in you.
This has been explained many times to you and is clearly stated in the Gospels and preached by the Catholic faith.
If you follow the false prophets and false beliefs of the protestant faiths, you will jeopardize your salvation. There is certainly some truth in the protestant beliefs and some false teaching and beliefs such as sola scriptura, once saved, always saved, denial of the Sacraments and the Euchrist, etc.
You may not like my comments or believe me, but I do love God with my whole heart and soul and I pray for my neighbors that they will understand God’s Truth and join Him in Heaven.
God’s Peace be with you. I truly hope you find the narrow gate and not take the easy path.
Your fantasies are not worthy of double posting. After Christians disappear in the snatching away, get down on your knees and ask God to save you despite your false religious history. And don’t take the Mark to buy or sell, if you survive to that point during the Tribulation.
You are a devious poster when you pluck a verse out of the context and insert it to try and have Jesus saying something you WANT to hear but He did not state as you misuse it [ You lifted verse 64 up to falsely pretend Jesus spoke verse 64 as a final point of verses 53-56. You are a devious Catholic ]
Jesus stated just after your misused quote, John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
It was not out context.
I know it is hard for you to comprehend God’s Truth.
Jesus said clearly: “I am the living bread which came down from Heaven; if anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh.
The Jews disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my life and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
I realize that you are confused and in denial of God’s Truth and you reject His specific words that tells you have no life or everlasting salvation. Catholics have accepted the words of Jesus and consumed His Body and Blood in the Eucharist for 2000 years. Obviously, the Jews didn’t believe that Jesus was God and rejected God’s Truth or accepting that God can do all good things and the impossible.
Based on the teachings of Jesus in John Chapter 6, protestant christians who do not believe the words of Jesus, then their eternal life with God is at risk.
Instead of admitting that you do not accept the words of Jesus, you blame devious poster for your lack of understanding and belief. Why is it easier to accept the beliefs of men like Luther, Calvin et al instead of relying on the Holy Spirit to help you understand the divine mysteries that jesus told us?
Verse 64 is not out of context (“But there are some of you that do not believe.”). Jesus after seeing many not believe and leave, replied in a discussion with His disciples. This included Judas who did not believe.
Human minds have difficulty in understanding and accepting divine mysteries. So God clarified that human flesh is of no avail, but Jesus is both human and divine and it is His Flesh and Blood that died on the Cross for our sins and he left us with His Body and Blood in the Eucharist at the Last Supper as our spiritual food for our journey to eternal life in Heaven.
I truly believe that the Eucharist, both the host and the cup after consecration at Mass is the Real Presence of Jesus Christ.
I hope that you can accept the words of Jesus for your eternal life.
Jesus is using godly sarcasm at a level the turning away Jews grasped at the carnal level to which they were focused ... just as the Catholicism religion grasps at the carnal level without being capable of grasping the spiritual meaning because to grasp the spiritual meaning of the sarcasm would to at once realize there is no magic incantation which can turn the carnal pride into spiritual enlightenment, i.e. there is nothing in the carbnal behavior or rituals which conveys what is on the spiritual level thus you cannot do anything to earn eternal life.
You miss the huge clue even as you reject the explanation Jesus gave to those who remained with Him, that the flesh profits nothing for it is the spirit -which is not on the carnal level- who gives life, that His words are spirit and LIFE. Try to grasp that the flesh does not give life to the spirit, the spirit gives life to the flesh, and the carnally minded man/woman cannot do behaviors which sustain spirit life because that is the reverse of the meaning, as Jesus clearly expl;ained and you refuse to hear that TRUTH.
You cannot and will not discern divine sarcasm until you have the divine abiding in your human, carnally minded spirit. Jesus, being God With Us, knew what was forbidden to eat and drink. GOD does not contradict Himself, for He knows the end from the beginning, and if He forbade eating human flesh and drinking the blood of a living being when He declared it forbidden in Genesis Leviticus, and at the first council of the Body of Believers in the Risen Christ, then.
If you actually believe He commanded in what He forbade then you call HIM a liar, a deceiver, a trickster in asserting He changed His command to the opposite of what He originally commanded, forbidding the eating of the flesh of huamns and from drinking the blood of the living creature. Such is the blasphemy of Catholicism and the magic ritual of the blasphemous twisting of Eucharisttic incantations.
John 6:56&57 he who is eating my flesh, and is drinking my blood, doth remain in me, and I in him. 'According as the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, he also who is eating me, even that one shall live because of me; [KJV version]
Was Jesus physically 'eating' The Father? No, but Jesus was SPIRITUALLY sustained by the Father in HIM SPIRITUALLY! The flesh profits nothing. It can be crucified and buried. It is The Spirit that gives LIFE, not the flesh. So just to make sure His dull of hearing disciples had a clear understandign of the godly sarcasm, Jeus siad:
John 6: 61-65 And Jesus having known in himself that his disciples are murmuring about this, said to them, 'Doth this stumble you?
if then ye may behold the Son of Man going up where he was before?
the spirit it is that is giving life; the flesh doth not profit anything; the sayings that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life;
but there are certain of you who do not believe;' for Jesus had known from the beginning who they are who are not believing, and who is he who will deliver him up,
and he said, 'Because of this I have said to you -- No one is able to come unto me, if it may not have been given him from my Father.'[Young's Literal Translation]
The way The Father sustained Jesus is the way Jesus is sustaining those who SPIRITUALLY take Him into their spirit. You don't carnally eat what is spiritual not carnal.
Jesus stated that where two or more are gathered in His name, there is He int he midst of them. Gathering to even pretend to defy what God commanded to not do is NOT GATHERING IN HIS NAME! Jesus is not int he midst of blasphemous behavior, regardless of how decorated the place of such blasphemous ritual, reagrdless of what incantations pedophile priests utter, regardless of how brainwashed the adherents are to the blasphemous rituals insulting God as if He is unable to keep a straight course SPIRITUALLY, and command such.
When we say your chosen religion of Catholicism is a work based religion, not Grace based, we refer to the ritualistic striving. Jesus tells you repeatedly in John 6 that He gives eternal life, not by/on the basis of what you strive to work but on the faith one places in Him alone ... placing faith in what you have done, what strivi9ngs you have accomplished IS NOT PLACING YOUR FAITH IN HIM. Believing in what HE ACCOMPLISHED brings spiritual life, and that life is eternal life, by God’s Grace never by your striving regardless of how decorated are the rituals and how flowery the incantations uttered by a priesthood rife with men of abomination.
Your comment: “Try to grasp that the flesh does not give life to the spirit, the spirit gives life to the flesh, and the carnally minded man/woman cannot do behaviors which sustain spirit life because that is the reverse of the meaning, as Jesus clearly expl;ained and you refuse to hear that TRUTH.”
So you believe the the Body and Blood of Jesus does not give life and His words have a protestant meaning?
I have shared the words of Jesus and you reject them. I can see your anger and hostility in your words.
Good luck to your eternal life! Hopefully one day you will believe Jesus and not be inspired by Satan. Your choice.
“Truly, truly, I say to you unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my life and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”
The devil’s actual devotees consider the Church their real and main enemy precisely because Jesus founded the Catholic Church (see Matthew 16:18-19). That’s why they seek out the Eucharist—the sacramental “Real Thing”—from a Catholic church, instead of mere bread and mere wine or grape juice from a Protestant service. They realize that Protestants have merely a symbol while Catholics have the substantial body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus under the appearances of bread and wine.
Further, I would argue that anti-Catholicism makes the strangest of bedfellows. Where else do you get such an eclectic coalition of people—including Hitler, Stalin, the ACLU, ISIS, Planned Parenthood, and the Ku Klux Klan—lining up together in agreement on a cause, despite their often great differences? And the secular media is no friend of the Catholic Church, either. If there were real conspiracies to expose, you can bet the wide-ranging and influential opponents of the Church would bring them to light, with the devil’s assistance no less.
In contrast, when a genuine scandal occurs within the Church, e.g., the recent clerical sexual abuse crisis, it’s front-page news.
https://www.catholic.com/qa/debunking-conspiracy-theories-about-the-church
You are very mistaken evidencing a deeply carnal mind.
Enjoy your life while you can.
Enjoy your life while you can.
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