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To: imardmd1; Philsworld
Misinterpretation of any verse to support your doctrines is a great sin, ...

If it is a great sin for him, is it not a great sin for anyone, including you ?

Just because one does not agree with you private interpretation of scripture does not necessarily make him a great sinner, nor you righteous. Look to the works to see what is in the heart. In this thread, look to the vituperative and repeated name calling, the hatred of those in the Catholic Church, or a sect other than one's own. It is like the Samaritans hating the Jews, and those doing it, it seems to me, have no insight into their own very visible and public behavior here while they claim to be righteous.
1,403 posted on 04/02/2022 3:25:32 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
Just because one does not agree with you private interpretation of scripture does not necessarily make him a great sinner, nor you righteous.

Likewise...


Just because one does not agree with Rome's interpretation and addition to scripture does not necessarily make him a great sinner, nor you righteous.

1,405 posted on 04/02/2022 4:36:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981

Good insight.


1,406 posted on 04/02/2022 4:37:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
You are here accusing me of wrongfully interpreting (not translating) the meaning of what was behind Simon Bar Jonah's proclamation, "Thou art the Christ, the son of the living God," to which in Post #1269 I noted that he was not speaking from the heart,and went on to demonstrate that it was put on his lips by God, the Father of Jesus, as an instance of Special Revelation, not from Simon's flesh-and-blood heart in either plain-literal terms or in figurative terms, which was said to be the case by Jesus (whose true magnficence as Messiah Simon really did not/could not yet perceive, though his lips spoke of it).

But in your Post #1283 reply to my #1268 you contradict what I said, and in your total lack of perspicacity called forth Romans 10:10-11, thinking that it supported your interpretation of the Matthew 16:16, that Simon was speaking from his heart.

In fact, the Romans 10:6-11 proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that at that time, Simon was not saved, not speaking what he believed in his heart, because we can see from Matthew 16:20-21 that he not only rejected Jesus' disclosure that He would be killed, then raised from the dead, but remonstrated with the Satanic impulse in his heart that should NOT happen to Jesus. Simon was rebuking Jesus for His prediction, trying to dissuade Him from going down that path, which is exactly what he, Satan, would urge Simon to do. The last thing ever that Satan wanted was for Jesus, the innocent Lamb of God, by His substitutionary Cross-death to take away the sin of the world.

Apparently you have no studied skill in applying hermeneutics--the science of interpretation--and here in your Post #1403 you are again denying the thesis of my interpretation (which is in agreement with the Romans 10 passage, that Peter did profess what The Father put on his lips, but did NOT believe that Jesus was giving them prophetic truth that He was to be raised from the dead. In his remonstration of the /master, Simon was essentially calling Jesus a liar, that such an event was NOT to take place.

For you in your naive lack of even any foresight on what the consequences would be by the introduction of the Romans passage to see that the whole of it shows your opinion to be false and mine correct, that has caused you to stumble logically and fall in your undeserved negative criticism of what it took me a lot of time to research, get lined up with Biblical doctrine, and post.

You need to take more pains to check out the sense of your illogical opinions, my FRiend. That is, if you want anyone to think that your comments are credible, not merely hare-brained as is your post here in #1403.

1,410 posted on 04/02/2022 8:06:58 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: af_vet_1981

Only those who do the will of God will be included into the Kingdom of Heaven...

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Matthew 23:13

I think you agree with me on that. Believers of OSAS do not. It doesn’t matter what they do after they are saved by grace, they say.

I just finished watching a video entitled... Was Judas Ever Saved? A Biblical Refutation of “Once Saved Always Saved”. OSAS believers also do not believe that Judas was ever saved, and how could he, they say, he was called a devil by Christ and ended up betraying Him, and that is not something someone could have done if they were saved in the first place, let alone end up going to hell.

OSAS is a Satanic lie that will cause the loss of Salvation for innumerable Christians. I think we find common ground here. If you ever find the time, please watch/listen through it and tell me what you think. As a disclaimer I know absolutely nothing about the E511 site. But, he is spot on with this doctrinal error. He is very detailed in taking it apart. He brings out its false Calvinistic teaching roots and mentions popular authors, such as John MacArthur, as proponents, and gnostic influences. In fact, OSAS goes all the way back to the 2nd century (started by the gnostics). The first half of the video is basically explaining the errors of OSAS. The second half is specifically about Judas, AND, how OSAS fits into the the false theory that he was never saved to begin with. You may remember the laughter, jeering, and mocking I received when I proposed that Judas was saved in the beginning, then lost at the end of his life. MHGinTN lead the way on that, I believe. Well, it looks like I was right.

Essentially every argument for OSAS is BIBLICALLY refuted by this video. I watched/listened from beginning to end. It is sound doctrine. In a way, it’s sad commentary to the explaining of why so many Christians will lose their eternal salvation in the end.

I think you will find the video enlightening and instructive.

https://youtu.be/mZslH-Ar2Rw

Regards


1,468 posted on 04/02/2022 5:16:22 PM PDT by Philsworld
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