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Catholics Don't Believe You Can Earn Your Way to Heaven
Tradition | 03-06-2022 | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 03/06/2022 11:16:06 AM PST by CharlesOConnell

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To: Philsworld

It was encouragement so that you don’t quit after your first attempt in despair.

Now, let’s go over again your belief that Ellen White saw people living on other planets and saw Enoch visiting them.

Do you really believe that?


2,781 posted on 04/21/2022 4:58:26 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: Philsworld

Maybe post it another 5x.

“ In 1981 the church hired

All you need to know.


2,782 posted on 04/21/2022 4:59:22 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

1) Ramik had been raised a Roman Catholic (though not a “practicing” Catholic at the time of his research [read interview below]) and one of the books he examined was, in fact, The Great Controversy—not exactly flattering to that Church or the Pope.

2) Ramik later admitted in an interview that he had been biased against Ellen White when he went into the project, for he had read the work of many of her critics from D.M. Canright right up to the pre-publication manuscript of The White Lie itself.


2,783 posted on 04/21/2022 4:59:53 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
Stealth mode - using the sins of Ravi to pretend it refutes OSAS when it is actually the conscience of the poster obsessed with Ravi making a faulty comparison to itself as if it is not as bad as Ravi is perceived to have been. stealth mode is how pride struts its stuff dontchaknow.

------------------------------------------------ Dude, how many times does someone have to tell you not to pretend to read someone's mind/conscience, and put it in print on this forum?

Is it POSSIBLE that the ENTIRE exercise of 2,500 plus posts ALLOWED by the GOOD LORD was to allow us to DISCOVER our OWN possible TRUTH?

"He Who Knows, DOES NOT SPEAK.. He Who Speaks, DOES NOT KNOW!"

It may just be that GOD'S TRUTH is ONLY KNOWABLE and NOT SPEAKABLE.

2,784 posted on 04/21/2022 5:02:49 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Maybe post it another 5x.

“ In 1981 the church hired

All you need to know.


Miller & Martin PLLC was hired by Ravi Zacharapist International Ministries (“RZIM”) to conduct
an independent investigation into these allegations.

I guess they should have hired Vincent Ramik (nah, wouldn’t have changed anything....)


2,785 posted on 04/21/2022 5:05:07 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

—> Ramik later admitted in an interview that he had been biased

Hey! A non-practicing is as interested in $300 billable hours as any other attorney…

“Yo, Ramik, my cousin Vinny said you can write up a report for us - any way we want it to come out? That right??”

“Who is this? What’s Vinny’s last name? Where’d you meet him?”

“And assuming I like your answers, my rate is $500/hour for favorable reports.”

“Yes. We’ve got loads of money! That would be great!!”

OK Professor! Drop and prove he was honest.

Also show why two previous studies reached a different result.


2,786 posted on 04/21/2022 5:06:36 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: VideoDoctor

Follow the rules. Mind reading isn’t allowed.


2,787 posted on 04/21/2022 5:06:40 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What “studies” and by whom? Were any of them from a specialist in patent, trademark, and copyright law? Please show me those. Go...


2,788 posted on 04/21/2022 5:10:08 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld; Luircin

Posted up thread and linked by luircin.


2,789 posted on 04/21/2022 5:10:52 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

——>OK Professor! Drop and prove he was honest.

The burden of proof is on YOU, Professor B.T. AMPU


2,790 posted on 04/21/2022 5:11:37 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

no idea what that means


2,791 posted on 04/21/2022 5:12:12 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
Follow the rules. Mind reading isn’t allowed.

I reiterate: "He Who Knows, DOES NOT SPEAK.. He Who Speaks, DOES NOT KNOW!"

2,792 posted on 04/21/2022 5:12:31 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Philsworld

Sorry, but he’s your witness. He was paid by your people.

He had a conflict of interest and his opinion conflicted with earlier research.

So I don’t buy it as a legitimate opinion at all.


2,793 posted on 04/21/2022 5:16:24 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: VideoDoctor

sum ting wong


2,794 posted on 04/21/2022 5:18:24 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

——>So I don’t buy it as a legitimate opinion at all.

I’ll take the opinion of a specialist in patent, trademark, and copyright law over you, any day. He was initially biased AGAINST EGW right from the start. And Ramik being Catholic? Your assertion is laughable.

Opinion:
Ramik was given all the allegations of plagiarism from the first raised in 1889 to 1981.

“Based upon our review of the facts and legal precedents, we conclude that Ellen G. White was not a plagiarist and her works did not constitute copyright infringement/piracy.” (Adventist Review, Sept. 17, 1981)

“Considering all factors necessary in reaching a just conclusion on this issue, it is submitted that the writings of Ellen G. White were conclusively unplagiaristic.” (Ibid)


2,795 posted on 04/21/2022 5:25:48 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
sum ting wong

The air is rapidly going OUT of your balloon.

Even the login name you post with, "Philsworld", defines you as someone locked into his own little world and is always eager to defend it.

I have read the majority of posts on this VERY LENGTHY thread and i have read and heard MUCH TRUTH in MANY POSTS.

That would lead me to conclude, perhaps.. "ALL WAYS are the WAYS!"

2,796 posted on 04/21/2022 5:28:11 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Philsworld

—> I’ll take the opinion of

Your posting history leaves no doubt that you would believe anything supportive of the false religion and deny any fact that demonstrates it’s true character.

Heck, you even posted you believe White visited other worlds, saw unfallen people there, and saw Enoch visiting them.

Your posting history doesn’t paint you as objective.


2,797 posted on 04/21/2022 5:40:14 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

——>Your posting history leaves no doubt that you would believe anything supportive of the false religion and deny any fact that demonstrates it’s true character.

because you say it’s a false religion? Any religion that doesn’t believe in keeping the commandments of God IS a false religion. Add OSAS and the PTR and you have a trifecta. THAT is a true FALSE religion.

Why don’t you read up on those two links I posted on the remnant.


2,798 posted on 04/21/2022 5:51:47 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
You as much as call the Apostle Paul a liar and expect folks to give any credulity to anything you have to say? LOL
2,799 posted on 04/21/2022 5:55:06 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Philsworld

—> because you say it’s a false religion?

No, because your religion was founded by and follows as an authority a false prophet who was a spirit medium.

Because your false religion uses her writings as an authority over the Scriptures…

And because of the heresy it teaches.


2,800 posted on 04/21/2022 5:59:24 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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