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Catholics Don't Believe You Can Earn Your Way to Heaven
Tradition | 03-06-2022 | CharlesOconnell

Posted on 03/06/2022 11:16:06 AM PST by CharlesOConnell

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To: Philsworld
So you now want us to believe you have been neutral on the life of Ravi Zacharias. LOL

It just can't occur to you that IF you don't know, then you ought not be focusing on the sins of the flesh so ardently, amplifying the ugliness. You are a cultist, so it is almost impossible to believe anything you claim. The Holy Spirit is not in you so who is guiding the SDA cultist in his obsession with Ravi Zacharias, and this irrational hatred for the concept well defended in the letter to the Hebrews, that the New Covenant is not hallmarked with sins being remembered each year, every year? You don't like the Grace of God in Christ because you demand to have your efforts acknowledged, so you serve the devil's game of spittling doubt at every posting. LOL you have no idea what spirit you are serving so eagerly. But you WILL find out in some where/when of God's choosing.

1,361 posted on 04/01/2022 5:53:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

So you now want us to believe you have been neutral on the life of Ravi Zacharias. LOL


You appear to be mentally challenged. I AM CERTAINLY NOT NEUTRAL on the LIFE of Ravi Zacharias. He was the poster boy for OSAS, and he committed unspeakable acts on vulnerable women, and committed adultery on his wife, and many other crimes. HE DID IT, and all the while claiming OSAS. He thought he was untouchable. The only question that remains about Ravi is....(ready for it?) DID HE REPENT BEFORE DEATH? You say it doesn’t matter because it was only his flesh that sinned and he’s covered by OSAS/judgment happens at the moment of grace. I say that if he didn’t repent (and that applies to every human who is living or has ever lived on this earth) his goose is cooked.


1,362 posted on 04/01/2022 6:05:05 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN; MurphsLaw
But you are worth it. i hope to see you in the clouds someday soon.

Of course we want to see Murph in the clouds someday soon. That’s how much we care about people. We do, however, have to tell the truth about false religions.
So Murph, this is to you. I don’t know what your status with the Lord is. All we can do, is make a value judgment, based on your posts, and it doesn’t look good. Look bro, I was a Catholic, like you. I know what it’s like, to have no assurance of salvation, or anything. I know it’s a terrible feeling inside, knowing I wasn’t saved. I hated it, so I know where you are coming from. Everyone wants to see you in the clouds at the OSAS rapture (harpazo) If you don’t make it, all I can say is, I will not have to answer to God, concerning you. Your blood is on your own hands. All of us have presented you with the REAL spiritual truth. It’s up to you to respond to it. If you do, we have won a brother. If not, well, there is Hebrews 10:27 “But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.” 🔥 I hope you make it bro, and it’s certainly possible, but I am not sure you will.

1,363 posted on 04/01/2022 6:08:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: MHGinTN

But you WILL find out in some where/when of God’s choosing.


I already know that. You and I may or may not find out at the same time. Either way, we are both going to be judged. You can take that to the bank.


1,364 posted on 04/01/2022 6:09:12 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN

It just can’t occur to you that IF you don’t know, then you ought not be focusing on the sins of the flesh so ardently, amplifying the ugliness.


I am focusing on the Satanic lie of OSAS, and using Poster Boy, Ravi Zacharias, as a TEACHING TOOL/EXAMPLE. Does that make you uncomfortable?


1,365 posted on 04/01/2022 6:14:40 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld
John 5:24

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.


1,366 posted on 04/01/2022 6:16:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: MHGinTN

then you ought not be focusing on the sins of the flesh so ardently, amplifying the ugliness.


Yes, sin is ugly. But not to you, right? You get a free pass, just like Ravi. So why should you care about ugliness and judgment?


1,367 posted on 04/01/2022 6:17:07 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

LOL, you just can’t help yourself, you just have to make up accusation. NEVER have I even hinted that sin does not matter. But we understand why you have to make false assertions, cultist.


1,368 posted on 04/01/2022 6:24:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom
Assembling Scripture into one handy book is not “giving the world the Bible” as if without Catholicism Scripture would not exist.

Aren’t they committing the sin of presumption, by presuming the Catholic Church gave us the Bible? 😀
Here is another thing that puzzles me, since it is totally unimportant. Why do some seem so hung up on a Biblical table of contents? I couldn’t care less about that. The Bible was written without chapters and verses. Someone decided it would help to divide books into chapters and verses. I am glad someone did, but I don’t care if someone wants to see a table of contents. It’s meaningless to me. I don’t even respond to it.

1,369 posted on 04/01/2022 6:28:11 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: metmom

They didn’t even assemble the list of books properly anyways! T’was blessed brother Luther who formed the canon of Scripture. Catholics didn’t even have their official list ‘til 1563.


1,370 posted on 04/01/2022 6:33:23 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

John 5:24
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”


Grace covers PAST SINS and the condemnation that came with them. We are then passed from certain death unto everlasting life, AT THAT MOMENT (just like the thief on the cross). Then, we live a life of faith unto obedience. AT THE END OF THAT LIFE, we are judged.

“Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of SINS THAT ARE PAST, through the forbearance of God;” Romans 3:24-25

“But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his OLD SINS.” 2 Peter 1:9


1,371 posted on 04/01/2022 6:33:41 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN

LOL, you just can’t help yourself, you just have to make up accusation. NEVER have I even hinted that sin does not matter. But we understand why you have to make false assertions, cultist.


Lawbreaker, you have REPEATEDLY made it exceedingly clear that sin will not affect your salvation in any way (or Ravi’s). That means that CURRENT AND FUTURE SIN DOESN’T MATTER TO YOU.


1,372 posted on 04/01/2022 6:37:40 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I wonder, is the cultist revealing he doesn’t want the New Covenant and wants to be judged under the Old Covenant? Grace is just not enough for the ego of cultists, in all sorts of cults.


1,373 posted on 04/01/2022 6:37:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Philsworld

You accused, “... you have REPEATEDLY made it exceedingly clear that sin will not affect your salvation in any way (or Ravi’s).” What an imagination you have! It is interesting how satan’s influence twists the mental trails of a cultist, though.


1,374 posted on 04/01/2022 6:41:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Beast * 2


1,375 posted on 04/01/2022 6:43:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mark17
...the Catholic Church gave us the Bible.

But wait - there's MORE!

1,376 posted on 04/01/2022 6:47:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

...only if they pray the Rosary and say Our Fathers correctly and in the appointed number of times.


1,377 posted on 04/01/2022 6:49:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

The Holy Spirit is not in you so who is guiding the SDA cultist in his obsession with Ravi Zacharias, and this irrational hatred for the concept well defended in the letter to the Hebrews, that the New Covenant is not hallmarked with sins being remembered each year, every year?


Oh, this new covenant, that is BASED ON GOD’S LAWS? That new covenant???

Hebrews 10:
16This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

So, what sins is Paul talking about in verse 17? Those past sins, forgiven at the moment of grace and all future REPENTANT sins. They are certainly covered by the blood of Jesus Christ.


1,378 posted on 04/01/2022 6:49:42 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: MHGinTN

Well, I could dig up all of your old posts (there are multitudes) where you REPETEDLY make it exceedingly clear that sin will not affect your salvation in any way (or Ravi’s), but that seems to be a faux pas on FR. So, just to clear it up, why don’t you just say that sin will affect your salvation, that God demands obedience to his laws, and that OSAS is the Satanic lie that it is? Go...


1,379 posted on 04/01/2022 6:58:18 PM PDT by Philsworld
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To: Philsworld

You are now sliding into just lying. Sad that you haven’t a clue regarding the difference between the soul of the flesh and the spirit. Effects of cultic lies I suppose.


1,380 posted on 04/01/2022 7:03:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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