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To: MHGinTN; MurphsLaw
But you are worth it. i hope to see you in the clouds someday soon.

Of course we want to see Murph in the clouds someday soon. That’s how much we care about people. We do, however, have to tell the truth about false religions.
So Murph, this is to you. I don’t know what your status with the Lord is. All we can do, is make a value judgment, based on your posts, and it doesn’t look good. Look bro, I was a Catholic, like you. I know what it’s like, to have no assurance of salvation, or anything. I know it’s a terrible feeling inside, knowing I wasn’t saved. I hated it, so I know where you are coming from. Everyone wants to see you in the clouds at the OSAS rapture (harpazo) If you don’t make it, all I can say is, I will not have to answer to God, concerning you. Your blood is on your own hands. All of us have presented you with the REAL spiritual truth. It’s up to you to respond to it. If you do, we have won a brother. If not, well, there is Hebrews 10:27 “But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.” 🔥 I hope you make it bro, and it’s certainly possible, but I am not sure you will.

1,363 posted on 04/01/2022 6:08:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of a USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17
Of course we want to see Murph in the clouds someday soon. That's how much we care about people. We do, however, have to tell the truth about false religions. So Murph, this is to you. I don't know what your status with the Lord is. All we can do, is make a value judgment, based on your posts, and it doesn't look good.

Well you'll have to make that value judgement- I will take St. Paul's advice:

Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart.

Again I can have some assurance, in that IF I have done what Christ has asked me to do- I have a chance at the clouds – and what God has promised. but we always fall short… how short of the goal can we fall? I dunno – So I cannot have certainty of being in the Clouds – or proclaiming that for myself.

I was a Catholic, like you. I know what it's like, to have no assurance of salvation, or anything. I know it's a terrible feeling inside, knowing I wasn't saved. I hated it, so I know where you are coming from.

I left the Catholic Church when I was younger, and finally free - and it had nothing to do with “being saved” or not - that movement hadn't even mainstreamed yet or made popular.
It wasn't even about doctrine back then, as I wasn't educated well enough to even know my own Faith, let alone defend it.
No, it was more like who needs Mass every week? And “I'm not telling my sins to a priest, none of his business” –and I'm a good person just the same… most of the time…. "Fasting? No thanks"

Heck, I walked away from the Church before being able to use the priest-sex-scandal as an excuse became trendy. It was, who needs that “mystery of Faith”, mythical religion- what's the relevance to me?

Then I moved to the “Bible” Belt, and American Christianity… and Lord have mercy. Sparing details and stories – all I can say is that there was nothing of any non-Catholic faith I encountered for years that seemed legitimate to what I knew to be Christ. Something was missing.

It wasn't until family came along that I realized I was deceiving myself about having Faith. So we were both changed in different ways- on different paths. And we seem to better than we were before, so there's that.
1,639 posted on 04/04/2022 2:58:52 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say? As for everyone who comes to me..."+++)
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