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Apocalypse? Not.
Catholic Culture ^ | James Akin

Posted on 02/25/2022 8:13:18 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

In thie article, James Akin explains the signs that will precede the end of the world and debunks many of the theories that attempt to predict its timing.

While many of these prophetic events already occurred early in the Church's history, they are most likely "prophetic archetypes" - patterns that will recur throughout history. According to Scripture, the signs that the end of the world is near include a devastating persecution of the Church, the conversion of the Jewish people, a massive apostacy of Christians, and the appearance of an Antichrist who will demand that people worship him.

James Akin also discusses many of the apocalyptic theories that have been disproved as time continues, and reminds us that it is more important to be concerned with preparing for our death than worrying about the end of the world.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicculture.org ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocalypse; endtimes; prophecy
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1 posted on 02/25/2022 8:13:18 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Apocalypse?

Not even close. The world has no idea of the horrors that are about to befall. Signs are all around that the end of the world is near.

Jesus Christ is the ONLY answer and escape from the wrath that is coming. If you don't have Him, take Him. He's yours to take and have forever.

2 posted on 02/25/2022 8:21:41 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

22 year old article? Or has it been updated?


3 posted on 02/25/2022 8:27:23 AM PST by Migraine
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It’s not the end of the world, it’s the end of the age.


4 posted on 02/25/2022 8:30:12 AM PST by Babba Gi
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Whenever people start up with Armageddon stories I compare them to WWII, the death camps, etc. which wasn’t it either.


5 posted on 02/25/2022 8:30:44 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

You will hear of wars and the rumors of wars. The problem we mortals have is using a regular clock against some one whose days are like 1 thousand years here. It may be dinner time in Heaven, but the sun hasn’t fully gone down yet. No one knows the hour of the coming of the Lord.


6 posted on 02/25/2022 8:37:47 AM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian ( 2022 - VOTE THE BUMS OUT —— ALL OF THEM! RE-ELECT NO ONE!!)
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To: Jim W N

Amen to that!!!😃😀


7 posted on 02/25/2022 8:38:08 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as. )
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8 posted on 02/25/2022 8:41:53 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian

No one knows the day or the hour, but we SHOULD know the times and the seasons (1 Thess. 5:1). The signs are everywhere that the Lord’s return is imminent.


9 posted on 02/25/2022 8:52:12 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Migraine

Relevant subject 22 years ago or not...


10 posted on 02/25/2022 8:52:56 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian

But we should know the Times and the Seasons. A lot has to happen yet.

Are we in the birthing pains before Tribulation? Possibly....time will tell


11 posted on 02/25/2022 8:55:08 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (Back after a long hiatus. Now mygrandkidsgrandma)
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To: Babba Gi

Yes it’s the end of the age, but the Bible also calls it the end of the world (Matt. 24:3).

It’s the end of the world “system” of rebellion against and independence from God.


12 posted on 02/25/2022 8:56:11 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

51 years of hearing diverse chicken littles of christendom.
in honor, the only cardinal i respect, posthumously, is the cardinal, who was in NYC, and has been found onyoutube, of his own tv broadcSasts.reason being, the man understood communism.


13 posted on 02/25/2022 9:28:50 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Jim W N

The subject is totally relevant. The content, however, may be out of date, given the crescendo of applicable events in the interim.


14 posted on 02/25/2022 9:35:31 AM PST by Migraine
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To: Babba Gi
It’s not the end of the world, it’s the end of the age.

Yes, and if your Gospel is dependent in any part on your own self-righteousness, prepare for impact. Because you have been misled. It is only by the atoning blood sacrifice on the cross that you can stand before Holy God in righteousness. All we have to offer is our sins.
15 posted on 02/25/2022 9:38:19 AM PST by Old Yeller (A nation of sheep, produces a government of wolves.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

This author places us in the Revelation 20 millennium, which is nonsense. Satan is NOT bound in the abyss. Christ is not reigning on the earth. He also claims that so many people identifying as “Christian” is proof that the great apostasy has not yet arrived.

While I agree it hasn’t arrived, when it does, many will identify as “Christian” wherein the Antichrist is the head of this version of Christianity. In other words, vast numbers of people identifying as Christian has no correlation to the apostasy.

There are clear signs in the Olivet Discourse (and matched to the 7 seals of Revelation) that allow us to “see the day approaching” as the Hebrews’ author admonishes. The author (of this article, not Hebrews) wrongly places most of these signs in the first century. He apparently believes Revelation was written prior to 70 AD, which is problematic.

The author glosses over the critical matters of Daniel’s 70th week and the Day of the Lord. However, these form the foundation of eschatology regarding end times events.

The author does positively advocate for individuals concerned with end times to be sure of their preparedness for the next life. This can come for any of us at any time, whether we are in the midst of prophetic fulfillment or not. While it is a worthy point, I question whether the author truly understands how one may do so.


16 posted on 02/25/2022 11:39:37 AM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: Mygirlsmom; Jim W N

“we should know the Times and the Seasons”

A popular misconception.

“we SHOULD know the times and the seasons (1 Thess. 5:1). The signs are everywhere that the Lord’s return is imminent.”

Paul was telling the Thessalonians that they already knew, in relation to times and seasons, the Day of the Lord and return of Christ will happen suddenly and surprisingly. But it will not be a surprise to those who expect Him and watch for Him.

I’ve heard great Bible teachers say, “We can know the times and seasons,” but it’s still an error. Read the scriptures:

Acts 1:7 (NKJV)
And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.”

Further, Christ’s return is NOT imminent in the sense He may return at any moment. Since the early Church, it is true that Christ could have returned within any generation. It is in that sense that His return will happen quickly.

If He could come at any moment, there would be no requisite “signs” to watch for. But Hebrews tells us we can “see the Day approaching.” We do not “know the times and seasons,” but we can know the signs. They are found in the Olivet Discourse.

Christ’s return will only become imminent and “at any moment” when ALL of the signs of His appearing have happened. Only then are we told to look up:

Acts 1:10-11 (NKJV)
And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

Luke 21:28 (NKJV)
Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.

It is only when the celestial signs of Christ’s return happen that we know He is about to appear. These include a simultaneous solar and lunar eclipse, which has never happened and will only happen once in human history.

This sign will mark the end of the Great Tribulation and the imminent arrival of the Day of the Lord.


17 posted on 02/25/2022 11:57:59 AM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: unlearner

A somewhat confused post there unlearner. Hard to tell what you are arguing for or against or whether you’re just contentious.

We SHOULD know the times and the seasons which Paul spoke of specifically regarding the return of the Lord (1 Thess 5:1). He goes on to say some of the things to look for and again, specifically with exhortations to be awake, watch, be sober, as children of the light, “that that day should not overtake you as a thief” (v. 4).

Your passage (Acts 1:7) is in regards to the prevailing interest among Jews at the time - the restoration of the nation of Israel, not His second coming.

There are no precise signs which scripture says must come first, but there are a lot of signs that tell us the day is fast approaching. We are supposed to watch and scripture gives us many signs regarding the approach of that day and those signs are not confined to the stars regardless of you pet doctrine.

Don’t be like those Peter spoke about who scoff at the idea the day is fast approaching.


18 posted on 02/25/2022 12:28:09 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

“A somewhat confused post there unlearner. Hard to tell what you are arguing for or against or whether you’re just contentious.”

Does telling the truth make me contentious? Would it be fair to claim you are contentious for disagreeing with my view?

I’m not straining at gnats. Critical issues are at stake. Whether people accept what I share or reject it, I’ve done my job of not hiding it.

“There are no precise signs which scripture says must come first, but there are a lot of signs that tell us the day is fast approaching”

Christ answered this question to His disciples in the Olivet Discourse. There are 6 signs (generally speaking) of His imminent return. His return is the final sign (of 7) that the “End” or “Day of the Lord” has come.

They asked specific questions that He answered:

Matthew 24:3 (NKJV)
Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

He answered the signs part. The “when” part He said is not for them (and presumably us) to know. I’ve heard people say we can’t know the day or hour, but we can know the year. No, we can’t. At least not until the signs Christ gave us have happened.

“We SHOULD know the times and the seasons which Paul spoke of specifically regarding the return of the Lord (1 Thess 5:1).”

1 Thessalonians 5:1-4 (NKJV)
But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.

“Your passage (Acts 1:7) is in regards to the prevailing interest among Jews at the time - the restoration of the nation of Israel, not His second coming.”

You can’t interpret the meaning of a passage by starting with a conclusion and working backwards to make it fit. It is about BOTH the restoring of Israel AND His second coming. Many scriptures show this connection, and the passage under discussion specifically mentions His return to those asking about restoring the kingdom, thus, MAKING this connection.

Acts 1:10 (NKJV)
[The angels] also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.”

Regarding the timing of Christ’s return, we do not know the day, hour, or times and seasons. That is straight out of scripture, word for word. The Thessalonians passage does not say they knew the times and seasons. Did they know that the rapture would not take place for two-thousand years? No. Of course not.

People who say we are supposed to know the times and seasons mean well and probably ARE really talking about the signs. But the problem I’ve seen over and over is that there is the tendency to start setting dates. Until the specific signs Christ gave us happen, He is not coming back. Period.

Yes, war is one sign. Yes, global pandemic is a sign. But these are not THE signs in isolation. They should get our attention, but it is not time to quit our jobs and wait on our rooftops, like some of the Thessalonians did. We are commanded to watch expectantly AND wait patiently. His return will be sooner than some expect. But it will also come later than others expect.

“We are supposed to watch and scripture gives us many signs regarding the approach of that day and those signs are not confined to the stars regardless of you pet doctrine.”

There are many signs, true. But other signs of the end times may or may not be connected with the timing of Christ’s return. For example, some believe the configuration of sun, moon, and stars depicted by John’s vision in Revelation 12 (which is specifically called a “sign”) happened a couple of years ago and is the only time such a configuration ever happened in human history or ever will. But does it mean Christ is about to return? I don’t see evidence for that, but it certainly is attention getting.

Indeed another MAJOR sign of Christ’s soon return and the End of the world will be the abomination of desolation. The Olivet Discourse and 2 Thessalonians 2 include this event as a sign that will come BEFORE the End/Day of the Lord.

But the solar and lunar eclipse is not my “pet doctrine”.

Isaiah 34:4 & 8 (NKJV)
All the host of heaven shall be dissolved,
And the heavens shall be rolled up like a scroll;
All their host shall fall down
As the leaf falls from the vine,
And as fruit falling from a fig tree...
For it is the day of the Lord’s vengeance,
The year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Joel 2:31-32 (NKJV)
The sun shall be turned into darkness,
And the moon into blood,
BEFORE [emphasis added] the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord.

Matthew 24:29 (NKJV)
Immediately AFTER [emphasis added] the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Revelation 6:12-13 (NKJV)
I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.

The celestial signs are the all one and the same. They mark the end of the Great Tribulation and the imminency of the Day of the Lord (which begins with the rapture).

Otherwise, these would have to be 3 separate events, AND each of the passages that contain them would be unrelated. We can see from the context of each of these passages that they are not different events.

“Don’t be like those Peter spoke about who scoff at the idea the day is fast approaching.”

You’re referring to this passage:

2 Peter 3:3-4 (NKJV)
Knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.”

Peter is not talking about the Day of Christ fast approaching but the reason for what some might feel to be a long delay. He explains that the extended time is so more people can come to Christ.

But Peter does talk about the Day of the Lord coming as a thief, which is also another way of saying Christ will return as a thief.

Contrary to the ever-popular pre-trib rapture theory, Christ’s return (specifically the rapture), like the arrival of the Day of the Lord (because they are the same thing), is accompanied by sudden destruction. Daniel’s 70th week does NOT begin with sudden destruction. It begins with a false peace. Even the war that ends this false peace is not the type of sudden destruction that Christ and the apostles connected to the Day of the Lord and Christ’s return. The sudden destruction is specially holy angels pouring out the destruction of fire on the earth as they did on Sodom.

The Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord can be clearly distinguished in scripture. The rapture will occur at the end of the first, and it marks the beginning of the latter. Without understanding this it is impossible to understand the “times and seasons” and their relationship to the rapture.


19 posted on 02/25/2022 1:31:41 PM PST by unlearner (Si vis pacem, para bellum. Let him who desires peace prepare for war.)
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To: unlearner

My FRiend, you are so off the track. Anyway, when I see you on our way up to meet the Lord, which LAUNCHES Daniel’s 70th week, the 7-year tribulation, don’t say I didn’t warn you.


20 posted on 02/25/2022 1:45:29 PM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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