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Have you noticed exactly when the 144,000 are sealed? It’s AFTER the 5th seal signs in the heavens that marks the end of the Great Tribulation and the arrival of the Day of the Lord.

There is a pivoting back and forth between the events on earth and those in heaven. The seals being opened happens in Heaven, but these trigger events on earth. Chapter 7 depicts the 144,000 sealed on earth. There is a delay in starting the outpouring of wrath until the sealing is complete. Then we return to the Heavenly scene where the countless multitudes of believers from every nation have arrived before the throne of God. They came out of the Great Tribulation just in time to avoid the wrath of God being poured out. The 144,000 who remain are protected from God’s wrath even though they are on the earth.

Are we supposed to believe the 144,000 witnesses convert this countless multitude during the interlude between seal 6 and seal 7? And this task is done without the outpouring of the Holy Spirit? How much time would it take to convert countless millions? Remember, most hold the position that the 7 seals, 7 trumpets, and 7 bowls ALL happen during the 7 years of Daniel’s seventieth week. We know that the 5th trumpet involves torment that lasts 5 months. Is there enough time for this? After their conversion, how do they come to arrive in Heaven?

It seems far more plausible to me that these are the raptured saints of the final generation of the Church. It is also the only event in the book of Revelation that resembles the rapture, albeit from a heavenly perspective. The martyred saints of seal 5 (in chapter 6) are described as “souls” under the altar. They are not said to be standing. They receive white robes, but are not described as clothed. However, the multitude in chapter 7 is “standing” before the throne. They are not described as merely souls. They are already wearing their white robes. Did something transpire between these 2 events? Could it be that they were “clothed upon” with new bodies in the rapture? If this isn’t where, when, and how the rapture occurs in the sequence of events prophesied in Revelation, then where is it depicted?

Oh I forgot to address your mention of the two witnesses. I think this is one plausible example of people who could preach the gospel during the early part of Daniel’s 70th week even if the Church is no longer here. So, that is one good argument that can at least fit the pretrib paradigm. Since this doesn’t create any problems for the other rapture timing theories, I only consider it neutral as far as negating any other position. But it does provide a defense for the pretrib view when it comes to explaining how there can be believers in Christ after the church is gone. However, I think it is essential to incorporate the strong delusion into your timeline. When would it occur and to whom does it apply?

thanks for posting that. I will order his book.

It’s not only the lgbt promoters. Many christians look at porn and help fuel the sex trafficking industry. There will be great weeping when the end comes and when those people are exposed and thrown to hell.

"thanks for posting that. I will order his book."

Some of the stuff is pretty far out, but where there's smoke, there's fire. Another subject covered is mind-control, either via propaganda or via something more sci-fi and technological. Who knows? When the timing of some sensational act is suspicious, maybe it was triggered deliberately.

I’m not sure Christians looking at porn necessarily “fuel[s] the sex trafficking industry” because so much pornography is on the Internet for free, but adultery of the heart is treated in scripture as a threat to our souls and eternal salvation regardless of how others are directly affected.

But it is also true that when Christians or non-Christians pay money for services such as pornography (even under the guise of mainstream TV programming), it gives financial resources that contributes to sex trafficking. But even if no money is spent or this lust is not being fed by pornography, it is a threat to our souls.

I was not attempting to make an exhaustive list of mortal/cardinal sins. I was merely pointing out that God’s wrath being poured out on the world in the coming Day of the Lord is not some random, capricious act of an angry deity. Revelation gives specific reasons for His judgments and wrath:

Revelation 9:20-21 (NKJV)
But the rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands, that they should not worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which can neither see nor hear nor walk. And they did not repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.

Revelation 14:6-7 (NKJV)
Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— saying with a loud voice, “Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.”

Revelation 16:6 (NKJV)
For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets,
And You have given them blood to drink.
For it is their just due.

One of the problems of making a list of mortal sins is that we, as sinful humans, have a tendency to minimize and justify our own personal failures while fixating on the sins of others when those sins are not something we personally find difficult to avoid. For example, it is easy for me to condemn homosexual acts as acts of perversion because I’ve never struggled with those temptations, whether as actions or thoughts. However, I might want to treat gluttony as a minor sin because it’s more difficult for me personally to exercise self control in this area. And still other sins are easier to miss because not only can we hide them from others, we can also deceive ourselves. For example, pride and self-righteousness are every bit as dangerous to our souls as lust.

There will be people in Hell who never murdered, committed adultery or looked at pornography, stole anything, used illegal drugs for pleasure, or engaged in witchcraft or idolatry (to the best of their knowledge). Some will have studied the Bible, prayed, fasted, attended church faithfully, preached to others about Jesus, done lots of good deeds, and even performed miracles in Jesus’ name.

Some will be shocked to discover that they will not be making it into Heaven. And some will be equally shocked that many who had done all of these sins somehow made it into Heaven.

I’ve said all this to say that the real litmus test of salvation is not an external compliance with a list of dos and donts. It is a relationship with Christ that transforms a true believer from the inside out. Apart from this no amount of effort will succeed in producing righteousness or a life that is pleasing to God. But, with Christ, victory over the world, the Devil, and our own sinfulness is inevitable.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (NKJV)
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. AND SUCH WERE SOME OF YOU [emphasis added]. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

1 John 5:4b-5
And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?