Posted on 12/25/2021 6:29:28 PM PST by marshmallow
Pretty much.
Of course more than a few street pushers, proverbial as well as real, do get hooked on their dope. But the process of making useful idiots that will make more useful idiots through maleducation and indoctrination pretty much insures that by the time they’re unfit to sustain a civilization essentially all are so unfit. Had the USSR survived to be the beneficiary of the dry rot they unleashed it would have put them against the wall first … as the ChiComs probably would do if they ever got the chance.
What part of the OP was in your mind when you were defending the KGB? You are a subhuman, a literal, knuckle dragging, vile little goblin. If you died suddenly, you would improve the gene pool of the entire nation, assuming you're not posting from Russia!
Is Putin being against the transgender crap
And Putin as a member of the KGB would certainly be privy to all the influence operations in the USA... that brought us Transgenderism! Is the KGB against transgender crap in the United States? Of course not. The left in the United States is a creature of the KGB. Barack Obama himself was under the tutelage of a KGB agent, Frank Marshall Davis. The ACLU is documented as under the control of the KGB. So are almost every other leftwing organization in the USA, including the universities! Russia's Archbishop Kirill has a KGB codename and was spreading Marxist Liberation Theology as recently as 2009 through his role in the WCC, as confirmed by the KGB archives. Indeed, 100% of all Russian church hierarchy was under the direct control of the KGB, performed propaganda tasks for the KGB, including spreading Marxism in the third world and especially in Latin America and the USA, with the help of the WCC and other left wing religious organizations, not to mention KGB agents on the ground.
Basically, you're defending the satanic organization that RUINED the United States! And then calling it "far left paid propaganda"!
And why? Because you're a barely conscious subhuman. You're an NPC. Not even a thinking being. You are a vile, monstrosity, spreading lies and hate on the forum OPENLY in service of the KGB! The "mild," innocent little KGB!
Yep! Really makes me take a step back and question my own sanity LOL
Wrong question.
Right question is: What part of the OP had anything to do with the KGB and why the heck did you put in post #30 to try and turn this from a post against the insanity of transgender-ism into a KGB thread?
Not to mention, neither me or anyone else has defended the KGB.
After remains, the FSB is NOT the KGB or NKVD.
You'd better watch that little ticker of yours. It might explode in a minute and send you straight to bell where you belong.
Chuckle.
I am pointing out that conservatives should not buy Russian morality bullshit insomuch that (1) it is a KGB/FSB controlled State that (2) supports literally every communist nation and movement across planet Earth, both openly and in many cases covertly.
You attacked (1) by engaging in pro-KGB apologetics.
Why not?
Transgender-ism is garbage. Men competing in women's sports and winning everything is nonsense.
I don't care who says any of that. They are still correct.
insomuch that (1) it is a KGB/FSB controlled State that
Again the FSB is not the KGB.
And 2, the FSB does not control Russia right now, albeit they have some power.
It would be true to say the FBI has a heck of a lot more power in Dementia Joe's America than the FSB has in Russia.
(2) supports literally every communist nation and movement across planet Earth, both openly and in many cases covertly.
That is the Dementia Joe regime you are talking about right there.
Joe himself was pushed into politics by a man later known to be a KGB agent. His name escapes me at the moment, however.
Again the FSB is not the KGB.
This is where we started off the last time, in which case, you have to overcome the problem that: it's the same people, as KGB staff merely converted to FSB staff, and the FSB is merely the latest progression of the same entity that has operated out of the Lubyanka since 1913.
Hence why even former FSB agents like Litvinenko simply call everything "KGB/FSB", to denote that they're the same thing.
And 2, the FSB does not control Russia right now,
Something like 70-80% of all government positions that can be filled by appointment are staffed with "former" KGB or current FSB as well as the military:
"In the context of Russia’s pervasive corruption—which blossomed particularly in local elections—the elimination of regional elections and the establishment of president-appointed positions appeared in many respects to be something good. But Putin began to appoint KGB-FSB officers to all vacant positions, as well as to all government and political positions of any importance. Not everyone understood what was going on, or not all at once. And when they did understand, it was too late. Between 70 and 80 percent of all top positions in the government had been captured by the security services and the military. For the first time in history, the country’s government had been taken over by the KGB-FSB—by people who had spent their whole adult lives working in the KGB-FSB system, who hated America and Western Europe, who had no positive program and no experience in building anything. They knew only how to control, to subjugate, to destroy. As with smoking and cancer, as with the Gestapo in Nazi Germany, not a single good word can be said in defense of this organization, which was not destroyed in August 1991 only because of a historical misunderstanding."
Felshtinsky, Yuri; Pribylovsky, Vladimir. "The Putin Corporation: The Story of Russia's Secret Takeover" (Kindle Locations 276-282). Gibson Square. Kindle Edition.
I don't care who says any of that.
Obviously you do, since you have told us in this forum that the "KGB" isn't bad because it was not run by Stalin! Why engage in such blatant Pro-KGB propaganda if you didn't care what we think about the KGB?
"The survival of totalitarian political structures in Russia and other East European countries depended, in large part, on the continued existence of the KGB (FSB/SVR). To change the name of this organization, and to change a few leaders at the top, did not signify anything other than window-dressing. “The Russian and Soviet ‘security organs’ have been reorganized and renamed many times in their history without these changes significantly affecting their personnel, their mentality or their operations,” wrote KGB defector Anatoliy Golitsyn in a 1993 memorandum to the CIA. “The recent reorganization and alleged reform of the KGB is no exception.”[57]
Preobrzensky, Konstantin; Nyquist, J.R.; Westerman, Toby; Kincaid, Cliff. Back from the Dead: The Return of the Evil Empire . Unknown. Kindle Edition (quoting Golitsyn's The Perestroika Deception, pg. 215).
"Russian investigative journalist and political scientist Yevgenia Albats wrote, “there had never been any real question of disbanding the Committee for State Security [KGB].” She added that the stagecraft of 1991-92 was done “to dazzle the West. And it worked.”[58] On every side reforms were perverted and false fronts were erected. Tycoons were set up by the KGB, made into billionaires overnight; major industries were “privatized.” We know from the testimony of former KGB officers, like Victor Kalashnikov and Konstantin Preobrazhensky, that leading Russian “oligarchs” got their wealth from the Communist Party Soviet Union. There was never a question of them being real capitalists. According to Preobrazhensky, Russian billionaire Boris Berezovsky “did not conceal very much the fact of his being a KGB collaborator. Such collaboration in the Soviet period was normal for scholars of Jewish origin….”"
Preobrzensky, Konstantin; Nyquist, J.R.; Westerman, Toby; Kincaid, Cliff. Back from the Dead: The Return of the Evil Empire . Unknown. Kindle Edition.
"Former KGB Lt. Col. Victor Kalashnikov, who has been laboring on an oral history of the Soviet Union, made the following statement in an interview: “There was not any moment … that the old system of KGB and nomenklatura admitted their failure or lost control. They just changed their form and appearance.” Kalashnikov, who worked in the Kremlin under Yeltsin, added: “There has never been any moment when they admitted historical defeat. There never was any serious step toward de-communization – never, never. The Yakovlev Commission was conceived to imitate de-communization procedures in Central Europe.”"
Preobrzensky, Konstantin; Nyquist, J.R.; Westerman, Toby; Kincaid, Cliff. Back from the Dead: The Return of the Evil Empire . Unknown. Kindle Edition.
"I asked Kalashnikov whether he thought the fall of Communism was a sham. He replied as follows: 'Yes, it was a fake, an imitation. From the very beginning the idea was, we’ll get back, we’ll modernize. And that’s how it happened. Of course, many Western observers were happy about the new faces and new styles and openness. But step by step … many American institutions here in Russia have been pushed out or brought under Russian control. So, formally, we have several Western bodies here allegedly doing democracy and consulting work, but in fact they have become an instrument of Kremlin policy to … exploit for their own purposes.'"
Preobrzensky, Konstantin; Nyquist, J.R.; Westerman, Toby; Kincaid, Cliff. Back from the Dead: The Return of the Evil Empire . Unknown. Kindle Edition.
The military is not KGB.
Not to mention there is no KGB in existence right now. You cannot appoint from an organization that ended on December3, 1991.
Again, the FSB is not the KGB.
Get it?
Obviously you do
Obviously I don't. My post was about and I have repeatedly pointed out that this OP is about the lunacy of transgenderism. It's got nothing to do with the KGB despite you fighting hard to turn it into a thread on the KGB.
since you have told us in this forum that the “KGB” isn't bad because it was not run by Stalin!
Will you be good enough to show us exactly where I posted that?
Look, you may be one of the best far left liars on the planet, but what you cannot do is to make posts that don't exist, appear from thin air.
Of course The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is still alive and kicking. Just like The Communist Party of the USA has been in existence since 1919 and is still here.
The KGB however stopped being in existence since 1991.
Why should we believe you over scores of KGB/FSB defectors and experts, when you've made literally no effort to answer the problem of: it's the same people moving from the KGB to the FSB?
I have repeatedly
You have repeatedly repeated yourself lol. You have not actually answered any challenge, any quote, or anything of substance.
But, what can I expect from a literal subhuman such as yourself? I would not even qualify you as human life. You're lower than the animals, since, even though my dog can't beat me in an argument, at least my dog is not a force for evil! And that's all you really are: a force for evil, not a person, but like the wind or the force of gravity; you're a THING that promotes evil and isn't worth much else!
Your post #46:
You begin by quoting me:
"Or is your argument that the KGB has to be under the control of Stalin in order to be bad?
BINGO! You finally got it.
~ SmokingJoe, the retard, Post #46
I can just read that post again, since it's literally a copied and pasted quote.
You even followed it up by saying that the KGB was "milder" after the death of Stalin: i.e., either the KGB is not bad because Stalin was gone, or the KGB was not so bad, within the context of your post.
It's that your poor understanding of English
Not only are you a subhuman, but your attempts at gaslighting are also inferior to that of a normal human sociopath. Not to say you AREN'T a sociopath: that's par for the course with subhumans. I just mean to say you're so dumb you can't even gaslight effectively.
Correct.
And I stand by that. Its generally recognized that the KGB was at its worst under Stalin. It's not even something people argue about.
Even Nikita Khrushchev denounced Stalin and his use of the KGB to terrorize people, in his speech to the Communist Party in 1956.
i.e., either the KGB is not bad because Stalin was gone, or the KGB was not so bad, within the context of your post.
Let's take the simple interpretation: The KGB was never as bad after Stalin died as it was under the Stalin regime. Albeit the KGB was always bad.
What's the scale? We are still talking about millions of people imprisoned and disappeared within the Soviet system by the KGB since the 1950s, the demolition of dissidents in places like Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and Poland. Not to mention the victims of the KGB elsewhere in the world through KGB led subversion: the Vietnam war and the targeted killings done under the supervision and advice of the KGB, Narcoterrorism in Latin America which is largely a KGB/FSB affair through Venezuala, Colombia's FARC, etc. Middle East terrorism (Arafat was a KGB asset), the Iraq Wars (Saddam was KGB trained), the Iranian revolution, which happened with the support of the KGB. There are countless examples.
The KGB was always evil
Well, at least you're talking about the KGB now! Before hand, you were DELETING my references to the KGB in quotes and then responding as if I was talking about the NKVD!
So now that we've made this progress despite your immense stupidity as a subhuman and gaslighting sociopathy, will you now acknowledge all these KGB/FSB defectors saying that the difference between the KGB and the FSB is entirely illusory and that the fall of communism is a sham due to the continued existence of the KGB?
Lenin had The Cheka, the NKVD was Stalin.
Watch that little ticked of yours again. You are going to work yourself into a sudden painful death. And save humanity the pain of having to listen to you spew out your normal garbage..
Chuckle.
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