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Is the Latin Mass a Safe Haven for Queer Catholics?
New Ways Ministry ^ | December 21, 2021 | Robert Shine

Posted on 12/21/2021 9:53:44 AM PST by ebb tide

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1 posted on 12/21/2021 9:53:44 AM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 12/21/2021 9:54:45 AM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: ebb tide

Wth?............................


3 posted on 12/21/2021 9:54:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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"I cannot speak to the experiences of every person identified in the article, but I can speak as a queer Catholic"
Houston, we have a problem.
4 posted on 12/21/2021 9:56:52 AM PST by BipolarBob (WHY are there no Democrats on Mt. Rushmore?)
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To: ebb tide

One aspect of worship is that its even more important for those with illness or mental disorders to attend services, not less.

Its impossible to practice faith without the actual practice of the faith.


5 posted on 12/21/2021 9:58:54 AM PST by Bayard
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To: ebb tide

Look at me, look at me, look at me...


6 posted on 12/21/2021 10:02:33 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: ebb tide

Are any Catholics still around??


7 posted on 12/21/2021 10:03:23 AM PST by rexthecat
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To: ebb tide

New Ways is everything the name applies. The Traditional Latin Roman Rite is their target for destruction.

No human group of any kind or type, family, business, government or religious, regardless of their beliefs, is exempt from infiltration by abominable influence, or, communism. Because.it.can.work.


8 posted on 12/21/2021 10:04:05 AM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Publik Skules/Academia -> The Farm team for more Marxists coming. Infinitum.)
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To: Red Badger

It certainly isn’t for active homosexuals. For chaste, repentant ones, sure.


9 posted on 12/21/2021 10:04:42 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: ebb tide

‘...which Pope Francis just last weekend issued further restrictions on).’

it no longer matters to me,as I’ve ceased practicing worship of any kind, yet I still feel a surge of rage when I read about stuff like this, as I used to be the raddest of radtrads a few years ago; if I were you, who care deeply about the mass of the ages (missa saeculorum), if you haven’t already, I would seek the solace of the SSPX, and sever any relationship with the Vatican...


10 posted on 12/21/2021 10:05:28 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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‘Too many LGBTQ Catholics avoid Mass for fear of anti-queer homilies or transphobic language’

horse dung, Bobby Shine, the current mass is more inclusive of deviant and disordered behaviors than any worship in the history of mankind...


11 posted on 12/21/2021 10:16:06 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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“ Are any Catholics still around??”

Of course there are.

I won’t even skim this.

The enemy Hates Latin. It cannot use it to propagandize

Any haven for any one within the Church is always going to include the person renouncing sinful Behavior.

People engaging in sinful Behavior ( not to vibe confused with tendencies) are repulsed by the Latin and would not stay put in a service through Gregorian chant then the Latin prayers not without considerable discomfort

So no. The Latin Mass is attacked from the enemy. It would not be a safe haven for it.


12 posted on 12/21/2021 10:20:04 AM PST by stanne
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“It certainly isn’t for active homosexuals.”

Obviously since the faggot pope is trying to ban the Novus Ordo Missae and the Tridentine forms.


13 posted on 12/21/2021 10:21:39 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: Bayard

Motes and specks!!

Dont come for the show. You probly arent gonna like it.


14 posted on 12/21/2021 10:35:08 AM PST by Delta 21 (Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.)
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To: ebb tide

I am not nor have I ever been a Catholic, but even I can see this as a very poor attempt at gaslighting.


15 posted on 12/21/2021 10:42:50 AM PST by usurper
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“Latin Mass communities have caused great disunity in the church (and are often steeped in white supremacy”

This fag is a liar. I see all races at the TLMs I go to in California. If anything, TLM crowds are, on average, more racially diverse, as they’re based on liturgical preference rather than simply geographical parish boundaries. In other words, few attendees are likely at the TLM simply because they live in the neighborhood.


16 posted on 12/21/2021 10:52:55 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: ebb tide

When Oscar Wilde became a Catholic, the Latin Mass was the only Mass; or are they claiming Wilde became a Catholic instead of, say, a Methodist because the Catholics had better aesthetics? That would be pretty shallow for a deathbed conversion.

One thing I find interesting about these people who like the Latin Mass: at least from what is quoted here, they like how the focus is away from themselves and toward God. The defender of the Novus Ordo claims the new Mass is better because it is or can be more inclusive of LGBTQs, making the focus exactly the opposite.


17 posted on 12/21/2021 10:59:59 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: ebb tide
Queer people are simply broken people.

As a Catholic Christian I accept that we are all broken to some extent and need the Lord for our eventual salvation. The sexually disordered know deep within their psyche that something is drastically wrong with them and their pain is palpable.

As such they can chose two paths; accept that they are broken and disordered and seek Christ to repair them, or constantly try to change the outside world to get it to affirm their disordered cravings.

18 posted on 12/21/2021 11:13:33 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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Queer people are simply broken people.

Bingo.

The fact that Latin Mass is structured, so reverently and pointed, so wholly towards God, means that I can remove the things I struggle with in my sexuality and gender from the equation for just a minute and experience God in a way that I haven’t elsewhere. It’s not about me.

I think this is a beautiful testimony.

19 posted on 12/21/2021 2:45:05 PM PST by viewfromthefrontier
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To: Last Dakotan

Amen. May these broken people find peace through Lord Jesus Christ. He’s our only hope and answer—this is who the broken crave even if it’s not realized in the moment.


20 posted on 12/22/2021 4:07:00 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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