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Pope Francis Sent Me a Letter. It Gives me Hope as a Gay Catholic
The New York Times ^ | 11/15/21 | Michael O'Loughlin

Posted on 11/19/2021 7:13:24 PM PST by marshmallow

When Carol Baltosiewich was a Catholic nun, she spent 10 years caring for young men dying from AIDS. Even so, the first time I spoke to her, in 2016, I was terrified to tell her I’m gay.

As a reporter who covers the church, I had started interviewing Catholics who worked and fought during the height of the H.I.V. crisis in the United States, roughly 1982 to 1996. People like Ms. Baltosiewich persisted amid frequent hostility from church leaders toward gay people and the broader stigmas of the time. A poll in 1987 found that 43 percent of Americans agreed with the statement, “AIDS might be God’s punishment for immoral sexual behavior.”

A Catholic myself, I’d long internalized that being honest about my sexual orientation could be dangerous. L.G.B.T. people have been fired from their jobs at Catholic organizations. Some groups supporting L.G.B.T. Catholics have been barred from parishes. So even someone like Ms. Baltosiewich, who has loved and served countless gay men, could feel risky.

But my conversations with Ms. Baltosiewich and others like her — the fellowship, gratitude and moments of revelation we exchanged — had a profound effect on my own faith. So much so that recently, I wrote a letter to Pope Francis to share the book I wrote based on those conversations, and even to tell him a little about myself as a gay Catholic. To my surprise, he wrote back. His words offer me encouragement that dialogue is possible between L.G.B.T. Catholics and church leaders, even at the highest levels.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: gaycatholic; homosexualagenda
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1 posted on 11/19/2021 7:13:24 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Link didn’t work for me. If Frankie gives the gays hope and encouragement, it gives me hopelessness with that church. My Bible says it’s an abomination, not to be encouraged.


2 posted on 11/19/2021 7:16:36 PM PST by BipolarBob (I thought growing old would take longer.)
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To: marshmallow

Because you personally identify with a behavior does not make it OK, or change it from a sin to a virtue. If I say I’m an alcoholic, does that make alcoholism OK?


3 posted on 11/19/2021 7:17:15 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: BipolarBob
See if THIS is any better. There's a paywall.
4 posted on 11/19/2021 7:22:30 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

It amazes me how few fear God


5 posted on 11/19/2021 7:28:13 PM PST by roving
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To: BipolarBob

No quotes from Michael O’Loughlin’s spouse, Patrick FitzMichael?


6 posted on 11/19/2021 7:29:28 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: marshmallow

That works! Until I scroll down, but I got the gist of it. Thanks.


7 posted on 11/19/2021 7:35:15 PM PST by BipolarBob (I thought growing old would take longer.)
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To: BipolarBob

Luke 17:26-30
King James Version

26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Luke 17:32
King James Version

32 Remember Lot’s wife.


8 posted on 11/19/2021 8:14:42 PM PST by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: marshmallow

wonderful... what everybody else?


9 posted on 11/19/2021 8:14:49 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: SaveFerris

We need to build an ark?


10 posted on 11/19/2021 8:17:12 PM PST by BipolarBob (I thought growing old would take longer.)
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To: BipolarBob; SaveFerris

“How long can you tread water?”


11 posted on 11/19/2021 8:18:06 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

I float like an anchor and swim like a rock.


12 posted on 11/19/2021 8:21:28 PM PST by BipolarBob (I thought growing old would take longer.)
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To: marshmallow

Whiskey, Tango, Francis. The headline appears to be a most unfortunate monstrosity. I hope that the article does not contain accurate information that would back up one of many possible errors.

Francis cannot give Hope.

Only God can give Charity, Hope, and Faith. That is why they are called theological virtues.

Hope concerns cooperating with GOD in working towards sanctification according to His paths.

Being really bad at despair is not necessarily the same thing as hope.

Ungrounded optimism on one’s ability to attain salvation apart from GOD’s plan is not hope, but presumption. Presumption, along with despair, is a sin against hope.

Relax, just do it, is, theologically, pure Hollywood fantasy. As is “I did it my way.”


13 posted on 11/19/2021 8:21:53 PM PST by Hieronymus
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To: marshmallow

” I was terrified to tell her I’m gay.” Proof that people with same gender attraction are sick, twisted, immoral and can become straight with simple therapy and simple prayers. Of course, therapy and prayers are the last things that a sick person wants.


14 posted on 11/19/2021 8:34:13 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: marshmallow

It’s a gay church now so they can have it.


15 posted on 11/19/2021 8:39:04 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (“There are no rules here – we're trying to accomplish something.” -Thomas A. Edison )
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To: Falconspeed

How is being afraid to tell a nun he is homosexual prove he can become straight? I’m not arguing he can’t become straight, but I don’t understand you’re point.


16 posted on 11/19/2021 9:33:27 PM PST by NetAddicted ( Just looking)
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To: Falconspeed

“simple therapy and simple prayers”

Therapy for the person of the homosexual orientation, who is usually suffering from alienation of affection from a parent of the same sex or abuse, can be very effective, and that’s why the activists are trying ( often with success) to get it banned for young people whose ways aren’t set in stone yet. Even if not successful in fully straightening out orientation, prayer and therapy can help many to at least stop acting out compulsively.


17 posted on 11/19/2021 10:07:30 PM PST by MDLION (J"Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: BipolarBob

👍👍👍

✝️✝️✝️🙏🙏🙏🛐🛐🛐


18 posted on 11/19/2021 10:48:43 PM PST by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah no kidding


19 posted on 11/19/2021 10:49:12 PM PST by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: dfwgator

We sure do live in interesting times


20 posted on 11/19/2021 10:52:53 PM PST by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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