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Methodist Pastor: Killing Babies in Abortions is “Moral” if It’s Done With “Thoughtful Prayer”
Life News ^ | October 15, 2021 | Micaiah Bilger

Posted on 10/15/2021 2:44:32 PM PDT by Morgana

A United Methodist Church leader is promoting the notion that killing an unborn baby in an abortion is okay as long as the mother makes a “thoughtful and prayerful” decision first.

Pastor Robert Vaughn Jr., director of the General Board of Church and Society for the UMC, told Baptist News Global that the denomination takes a “reluctant pro-choice” stance on abortion. And his board is in charge of supporting that position.

“Terminating a pregnancy isn’t just a medical decision; it requires advanced pastoral care so that a person can look at the whole picture,” the Herndon, Virginia pastor said. “The United Methodist principle requires you to think through a decision, to seize the whole complexity of the question. It’s not as simple as some easy slogan.”

Vaughn said he once counseled a young, pro-life woman who became pregnant while she was taking medication that meant “she couldn’t carry the pregnancy to term,” according to the report. Rather than give her child a chance at life, she aborted her unborn child – a decision that Vaughn said was “moral.”

“I remember walking with her as she and her family went through that situation,” he said. “… It was good to be part of a denomination that respected her as an independent moral decision-maker, that gave her the right to choose.”

Vaughn described abortion as “health care” – though thousands of medical leaders and professionals disagree. He also brought up the struggles with poverty and other problems that pregnant women face – though aborting an unborn baby does not solve any of them.

The United Methodist Church believes: “Governmental laws and regulations do not provide all the guidance required by the informed Christian conscience. Therefore, a decision concerning abortion should be made only after thoughtful and prayerful consideration by the parties involved, with medical, family, pastoral and other appropriate counsel.”

The denomination’s official statement on abortion recognizes it as a “tragic conflict of life” but does not explain why it is a tragedy, namely because it kills a unique, living human being created in the image of God. The UMC believes abortions are ok in certain circumstances as long as abortion is not used for birth control, sex-selection or eugenics.

Vaughn is not the only UMC pastor who counsels women to get abortions.

Church historian William B. Lawrence began doing so before abortion on demand became legal nation-wide in 1973, according to the report.

Lawrence criticized Texas for passing its heartbeat law, which prohibits abortions once an unborn baby’s heartbeat is detectable. He pointed to a unique private enforcement provision that allows private citizens to sue abortionists and those who help them, saying pastors who counsel women to have abortions could be targeted under the law. None have been thus far.

“If the newly passed anti-abortion law in Texas had been in place 50 years ago, my ministry could have ended soon after it started,” Lawrence said. “I could have faced civil court actions for which my $5,800 annual salary would have been inadequate to finance a legal response. I might have left the ministry because I could not afford to stay in it.”

But what he and other UMC pastors are counseling in favor of is killing unborn babies. Nearly 63 million have been killed legally in abortions since 1973.

Christianity teaches that unborn babies are valuable human beings, something the United Methodist leaders neglected to mention. The Bible recognizes unborn babies as valuable human beings in multiple passages, and condemns the shedding of innocent blood and the harming of children.

True Christianity rejects violence and raises up the most vulnerable. It defends the defenseless and offers compassion to the suffering. This is what pro-life advocates, secular and religious, do every day for mothers and babies across the world. They offer struggling families true blessings by reassuring them that every life is valuable.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: abortion; babykiller; methodist; murderer; plannedparenthood; prolife; righttolife; robertvaughnjr; texas; umc; unitedmethodist; williamblawrence
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1 posted on 10/15/2021 2:44:32 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

These people are going to Hell!


2 posted on 10/15/2021 2:45:31 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (I got the <ΙΧΘΥΣ>< variant. Catch it. John 3:16)
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To: Morgana

They don’t call it a dead church for nothing.

(A dead church is just a country club the spirit does not visit)


3 posted on 10/15/2021 2:47:19 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said thein story was false!)
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To: Morgana

Just difficult to believe that the church would turn on itself....for what...a few extra bucks in the coffers?


4 posted on 10/15/2021 2:47:34 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Morgana

I feel the exact same way about killing Methodist Pastors..../s....mostly...


5 posted on 10/15/2021 2:47:51 PM PDT by Manic_Episode ( “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.”)
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To: Morgana

God has far more patience than I.


6 posted on 10/15/2021 2:48:01 PM PDT by RatRipper (The Biden Adm is leading an attack against US citizens . . . pure evil.)
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To: Morgana

Sick in more ways than one.


7 posted on 10/15/2021 2:48:32 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No nation that sanctions the wholesale slaughter of its unborn citizens is fit to endure.)
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To: Morgana

With “Christians” like this, who need Mohammedans?


8 posted on 10/15/2021 2:49:55 PM PDT by decal (MOLON JABE)
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To: Morgana

He must be one of those chrislam imams that traded in his Bible for a koran.


9 posted on 10/15/2021 2:50:43 PM PDT by patriot torch
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10 posted on 10/15/2021 2:50:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Morgana

Words fail me


11 posted on 10/15/2021 2:51:06 PM PDT by no-to-illegals ( The enemy has US surrounded. God’s speed FRiends)
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To: Morgana

I’ve got my share of sins, but thank God I’m no longer a Methodist.


12 posted on 10/15/2021 2:52:44 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Morgana

wow... I wonder if he has some of these consolation ideas about guys who rape little girls, and men who are pedophiles.... If they just do it prayerfully and thoughfully. Never thought of it this way. GO METHODISM.


13 posted on 10/15/2021 2:52:54 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Morgana

Damn… and here I thought the Methodists were Christian.


14 posted on 10/15/2021 2:53:10 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Enough. Divide the country.. now. )
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To: P-Marlowe

11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


15 posted on 10/15/2021 2:53:32 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: Morgana

UMC Motto: Open Minds, Open Hearts, Open Doors
Finding out I am a conservative
New UMC Motto: Close the Door and Lock Him Out

Our old UMC is having conversations about LGBTQ+
Our local UMC we attend is having conversations about the Book of James


16 posted on 10/15/2021 2:54:54 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: Morgana

Oh pleeease..


17 posted on 10/15/2021 2:55:39 PM PDT by aces (and )
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To: Morgana

Apostates.


18 posted on 10/15/2021 3:02:38 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Morgana

‘Methodist Pastor: Killing Babies in Abortions is “Moral” if It’s Done With “Thoughtful Prayer”’

Methodist Pastor: Killing anyone is “Moral” if It’s Done With “Thoughtful Prayer”

Is that what he meant?


19 posted on 10/15/2021 3:04:58 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (somRead more at: https://economicti)
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To: cableguymn

Once a church heads down this road they are doomed to failure. People who believe in God simply leave. The rest can go become a Universalist Unitarian.

I once visited a UU church and they had cards you could fill out to see what you believe in. If you said you worship Baal I guess that would have been fine.


20 posted on 10/15/2021 3:07:05 PM PDT by packagingguy
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