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After Taking Down Summorum Pontificum, the New Objective is Inter-Communion
Stilum Curiae ^ | August 5, 2021 | Marco Tosatti

Posted on 08/09/2021 3:55:04 PM PDT by ebb tide

After Taking Down Summorum Pontificum, the New Objective is Inter-Communion

Dear friends and enemies of Stilum Curiae, a friend from inside the Vatican Walls tells us – and naturally the news still needs to be verified – that the reigning Pontiff wants to return to concerning himself with Intercommunion, that is, making it possible for the faithful of other non-Catholic Christian confessions to participate in the Eucharist.

It is said that the one being charged with this task is the new Secretary of the Congregation for Divine Worship, the Franciscan Archbishop Vittorio Francesco Viola, formerly bishop of Tortona and a teacher at the Liturgical Institute of Sant’Anselmo in Rome. He is to organize a reserved commission in September that will have two months to give the results of its work directly to the Pope.

The methodology – bypassing the organisms, Congregations, and Councils authorized to deal with these specific topics – is very appealing to Pope Bergoglio. If this news is confirmed, we would have to ask why it is all being done in such a hurry.

One of the possible reasons could be the German Synod, where the theme of Inter-communion with Protestants has been placed on the agenda. In Germany there have already been some steps taken in this direction by a few bishops. Pope Bergoglio has not expressed himself clearly on this topic, but in a 2018 meeting he invited those concerned to arrive at a unanimous decision.

What is striking however – always on the condition that these rumors are verified – is that immediately after seeking to abrogate the Motu Proprio of Benedict XVI Summorum Pontificum, the Pope wants to address such a thorny knot and perhaps resolve it in his own way. According to some, it can only be solved by conversion to the Catholic Church.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: francischism; heresy; sacrilege

1 posted on 08/09/2021 3:55:04 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; ...

Ping


2 posted on 08/09/2021 3:58:24 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Pope Soros is erasing the Catholic Church.


3 posted on 08/09/2021 3:59:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: ebb tide

Communion with the mother of harlots. Ummmm, No thanks. I don’t care what the Pope says......


4 posted on 08/09/2021 4:05:15 PM PDT by Hardshell (Mollie Tibbetts)
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To: ebb tide

The odd thing is that it’s not all that complex.

Acts 4:12, for example:
“And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Or this gem:
1 Cor 15:3, 4
“For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,”

Otherwise, it turns into “carving you own image of God”. He doesn’t go for that.

https://youtu.be/ccenFp_3kq8


5 posted on 08/09/2021 4:19:01 PM PDT by Ken Regis
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Easier said than done.

Hope Bergoglio figures that out before he expires.


6 posted on 08/09/2021 4:22:51 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Ken Regis

So you don’t believe in the Last Super, Regis?


7 posted on 08/09/2021 4:41:32 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

*Bb,
For my last supper, I had a burger.

Regarding the Lord’s Supper, for which you have been schooled over and over again, I participate in the remembrance of Jesus Christ’s sacrificial death on the Cross. That’s when He died once, paying the price for my sin.

You won’t drag me into the next of your futile attempts to make something spiritual out of your Eucharist, your false religion, or your ever-changing traditions of uncertainty.

Enjoy your evening.

Ken


8 posted on 08/09/2021 5:17:38 PM PDT by Ken Regis
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To: Ken Regis

Enjoy your eternity.

Only burgers there may be well, well, well done.

But hopefully, not.


9 posted on 08/09/2021 5:21:16 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Ken Regis
Nobody believes that Jesus died more than once, so you can put that particular red herring to bed.

Now, about that "remembrance". Hebrews explains that the Old Covenant was mere symbols, but the New is infinitely better. Why would Jesus just replace one set of symbols with another, when he can give us the full reality of Himself: his Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity?

10 posted on 08/09/2021 7:04:22 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Ken Regis

So your contention is that the Gospel accounts have Jesus lying when He said “This is my body given for you” and “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you?”

Or perhaps He actually expressed himself in similes and, unlike where the Gospel writers were clear in writing Christ saying that the kingdom of heaven is *like* treasure hidden in a field or other parables, in this critical point Matthew, Mark and Luke all got it wrong and wrote “is” instead of “is like” or “represents.”

Maybe then, also, when Christ said he *is* the Bread of Life, again the writers perhaps meant to write that He said he was like this Bread, and when John wrote that his hearers argued saying “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” John was perhaps just confused.

Or maybe they’re consistent on purpose?

Unlike the other writer’s inference, I don’t think it’s a point on which Salvation turns — in your own words above you acknowledge the saving faith — but I think the Holy Spirit inspired the Word and didn’t make mistakes.

Nor are there many places where Christ said “Do this” so I think it’s kinda important we pay attention to those and not skip them because we’re grumpy about the Christians next door or which flaws their leader du jour exhibits.

Heck, He picked the guy who He knew would run away, deny Him in public and spend the next seven weeks hiding to be the rock on which He would build His church.


11 posted on 08/09/2021 7:55:08 PM PDT by No.6
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To: Hardshell
Communion with the mother of harlots.

That would be Margarethe Luther , may God rest her soul for her wayward son.

12 posted on 08/09/2021 9:10:56 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: No.6
“So EITHER your contention is that… “

Fixed it for free.

That’s “Grace”.

13 posted on 08/10/2021 3:18:12 PM PDT by Ken Regis
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To: Campion

If Christ gave us His real reality by having men change wafers and wine into His body and blood, literally, why is He coming back at the 2nd coming? Or don’t you believe that His second coming is literal?

Why come back if you are continually eaten and drank every day? Not only that, is He losing body sections and blood daily until they are turned back into Him at mass?

Does the RCC teach/believe it that Christ will return bodily at the second coming?


14 posted on 08/10/2021 4:37:12 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. OR THE MASK)
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To: smvoice

>Does the RCC teach/believe it that Christ will return bodily at the second coming?

Every Christian denomination does ... kinda part of both the Apostle’s and Nicene creeds, right?

As for why a physical return ... I don’t recall Him giving us that information. Even the date and time are known only to the Father (Matt 24:36).

Maybe you can pick some nice Missouri or Wisconsin synod Lutherans to argue with as Luther’s Catechism also speaks to the Real Presence albeit consubstantiation vs. transubstantiation.


15 posted on 08/10/2021 5:50:27 PM PDT by No.6
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To: No.6

Thanks for your attempt at humor(?)/help(?), but you came up lacking. In both. Try again, No.6 next time you think it’s important.


16 posted on 08/10/2021 5:54:38 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. OR THE MASK)
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