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To: Roman_War_Criminal

The pretrib rapture theory was invented by Darby in 1830. The mid-trib rapture theory about a hundred years later. Then came Marv Rosenthal’s pre-wrath rapture book in the 1900’s.

What do these three have in common? To cite but a couple of things:
1. They are all modern inventions of men. Nobody believed such a thing for 1800 years of church history.
2. They all have two second comings before the millennial reign: separated by seven years (pretrib); separated by 3 1/2 years (midtrib); separated by 1 1/2 years (pre-wrath).

Yet the earliest writers of church history, men like Hermas, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Hippolytus, Cyprian, Methodius, Lactantius, Victorinus, up to Augustine, taught there is only one second coming before the millennial reign.

Who to believe, these earliest writers of church history, whose belief on the second coming matched that of Jesus and the apostles just before them. Or Darby, etc. and their modern inventions?


17 posted on 07/21/2021 6:02:05 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

As I remember, Marv Rosenthal’s book on the pre-wrath rapture came out around 1990.


18 posted on 07/21/2021 6:09:16 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

You are incorrect.

Darby agreed with Irenaeus, Tertullian, Cyprian, Justin Martyr et al if you would just read what they wrote.

You could also read the Bible and see what Paul, John, and Peter wrote.

But believe what you wish...


21 posted on 07/21/2021 6:41:33 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: sasportas

You are in error. http://www.standeyo.com/News_Files/Inspire/Rapture.Darby.html


43 posted on 07/22/2021 8:15:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: sasportas

Amen brother. thanks for the truth.


59 posted on 07/22/2021 12:40:54 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: sasportas

What is interesting is that the mid 1800s in America led to a number of strange new beliefs. The pre tribulation rapture, jehovah’s witnesses, Seventh day Adventists, Mormons etc.


65 posted on 07/22/2021 1:31:50 PM PDT by Cronos ( )
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To: sasportas

That’s actually false, the doctrine of a pre-trib Rapture is in the New Testament itself. And the idea that somebody named Darby invented it out of whole cloth is wrong also. There have been multiple documents found from the church defending a pre-trib rapture.


111 posted on 07/23/2021 4:57:15 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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