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No Holy Communion for Joe and Nancy: Devout Catholic voters throw down the gauntlet
American Thinker ^ | 06/18/2021 | Silvio Canto Jr.

Posted on 06/18/2021 7:03:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Sacajaweau
And Hitler never personally murdered anyone. Does he have a Halo and harp today?
21 posted on 06/18/2021 9:23:02 AM PDT by null and void (When you put bad people in charge expect bad things to happen, often in a spectacular and sudden way)
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To: Sacajaweau

Promoting, funding, assisting or condoning abortion is formal coopertion with evil, a grave sin.


22 posted on 06/18/2021 9:25:19 AM PDT by Marchmain (If you're vaccinated, why do I need to wear a mask?)
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To: Sacajaweau
Neither Nancy or Joe has had an abortion

Do you that as an absolute fact? I don't think so... Are you Married to her? Are you her doctor?

Certainly if she approves of killing a baby in the womb for others, she would approve of it for herself. We wouldn't want Nancy to be deemed hypocritical.

But you are right... The Priest is NOT a Judge... He is a Priest who has made a vow to uphold his Office. And that office has guidance- a lot of it.

For all the spiritual people out there - that "don't need a Church" and they have a DIY Faith life.... WELL ! Here is why you need the Church to interpret and apply the Word of God.

God will Judge her - not us.

Regardless of the high profile nature of these sinners- and were all sinners- the Priest can deny the Eucharist. Faithful divorced Catholics do not receive the Eucharist as well. The rules are there- the teaching of the Church - and are not open to personal wants and needs.

Aside from the obvious repentance required of our sins at confession...

Do I respect the life and dignity of every human person from conception through natural death?
Do I recognize the face of Christ reflected in all others around me whatever their race, class, age, or abilities?
Do I work to protect the dignity of others when it is being
threatened?
Am I committed to both protecting human life andto ensuring that every human being is able to live in dignity?

Answering affirmatively to the above IS required...

And the Priest is furthermore obligated to follow:

CANON 915:
THE DISCIPLINE REGARDING THE DENIAL OF HOLY COMMUNION
TO THOSE OBSTINATELY PERSEVERING IN MANIFEST GRAVE SIN


And understood centuries ago... before humans became so woke...

St. Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica, III:q 80: article 6
"A distinction must be made among sinners: some
are secret; others are notorious, EITHER from evidence of the
fact, as public usurers, or public robbers or from
being denounced as evil men by some ecclesiastical or civil tribunal.
Therefore Holy Communion ought not to be given to open sinners when they ask for it."
23 posted on 06/18/2021 10:01:08 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (“I beseech you, brethren, to mark them who make dissensions and offences contrary to the doctrine”)
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To: SeekAndFind

Joe and Jill
Went up the Hill
For a Holy Communion.

Joe fell down
And Broke his crown
And Jill excommunicated after.


24 posted on 06/18/2021 10:20:08 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Sacajaweau
Two wrongs don't make a right, but billions of wrongs do? Is that what you're trying to say?

The church has no right to judge...and make up rules for today’s society.

In that case, we might as well just close up shop. There's no point in preaching redemption if we're not allowed to call anything "sin"; we're selling something nobody needs.

25 posted on 06/18/2021 11:28:46 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: bigbob
Those rules ARE applied to everyone. ANY Catholic catechism will tell you that Catholics aren't to present themselves for Holy Communion if they have mortal sin on their souls; they're to repent and go to confession.

Amazed that I have to explain this on FR. Our civilization is truly lost.

26 posted on 06/18/2021 11:30:52 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: MurphsLaw
Faithful divorced Catholics do not receive the Eucharist as well.

A quibble: a "faithful divorced Catholic" can receive the Eucharist any time he or she wants.

A divorced Catholic who remarries outside the faith (that is, without a decree of nullity for the first marriage) cannot.

27 posted on 06/18/2021 11:33:37 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: Campion
Yes.
And an important quibble... I should have been more specific.
Thanks for the correction.
28 posted on 06/18/2021 11:37:47 AM PDT by MurphsLaw (“I beseech you, brethren, to mark them who make dissensions and offences contrary to the doctrine”)
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To: Campion

john kerry is in the clear, then...on that count.


29 posted on 06/18/2021 12:29:15 PM PDT by stylin19a (I have kleptomania, but when it gets real bad, I take something for it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Many people do not realize that the support of abortion, euthanasia, stem cell research and same-sex marriage are all included in the dems’ platform.

Never, ever, vote for a democrat because of this.


30 posted on 06/18/2021 2:06:44 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Sacajaweau

Are you saying that you don’t believe the Ten Commandments — one of which is “Thou shalt not kill.”??


31 posted on 06/18/2021 2:07:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: stylin19a

Yeah, his first marriage was annulled in 1997. He’s clear ... on that count.


32 posted on 06/18/2021 3:17:28 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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