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To: Cronos

what happened to Enoch and Elijah sounds fairly close to rapture to me!


17 posted on 05/29/2021 11:57:48 AM PDT by jimfr
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To: jimfr

Not to mention John several times as well as Paul.
Jesus’s Ascension is a “Rapture” event.
The Two Witnesses in Revelation get raptured also.

He’s lying about there not being a Rapture when indeed there are multiple.


18 posted on 05/29/2021 12:01:56 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: jimfr
If they are right now in glorified hyper-dimensional bodies then it is the same. However, in the Old Testament we read of many events where Elijah was 'disappeared' then reappeared miles away.That sounds to me more like 'whisked away by the presence of a hyper-dimensional Angel. We read of Peter being brought out of jail by an Angel, etc.

The Rapture is a miraculous event where we in this bdoy will be instantly transformed to new bodies in hyper-dimensional spacetime then gathered into the clouds to meet the Lord int he air.

God does the miraculous, Angels use technology. And there are good Angels and bad Angels.

21 posted on 05/29/2021 1:31:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: jimfr

Enoch and Elijah were not reincarnated. And the 19th century pre tribulation rapture philosophy is quite distinct from what happened to Enoch and Elijah.

In the Old Testament it says, And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him (Gen. 5:24); the apostle Paul also says about Enoch that by faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him (Heb. 11:5). There is nothing about Heaven in either phrase. It says only that Enoch was translated, but does the relocation really have to be to Heaven?

Remember that heaven was closed until Christ’s resurrection and that no man had ascended up to Heaven, but He that came down from Heaven.
Translation didn’t mean rapture nor ‘taken away that he may not see death’ mean aboding in heaven.


26 posted on 05/29/2021 2:35:36 PM PDT by Cronos ( )
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