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The blood of murdered unborn children cries to God from abortion-tainted vaccines and medicines
LifeSite News ^ | April 1, 2021 | Bishop Athanasius Schneider Share on Gab Share on Facebook 656 Share on Twitter

Posted on 04/05/2021 5:45:46 PM PDT by ebb tide

The blood of murdered unborn children cries to God from abortion-tainted vaccines and medicines

Bishop Athanasius Schneider on abortion-tainted vaccines and the culture of death.

April 1, 2021 (LifeSiteNews) — Anti-Christian world powers that promote the culture of death are seeking to impose on the world’s population an implicit — though remote and passive — collaboration with abortion. Such remote collaboration, in itself, is also an evil because of the extraordinary historical circumstances in which these same world powers are promoting the murder of unborn children and the exploitation of their remains. When we use vaccines or medicines which utilize cell lines originating from aborted babies, we physically benefit from the “fruits” of one of the greatest evils of mankind — the cruel genocide of the unborn. For if one innocent child had not been cruelly murdered, we would not have these concrete vaccines or medicines. We should not be so naive as not to see that these vaccines and medicines not only offer a health benefit but also promise to promote the culture of death. Of course, some argue that even if people do not take these vaccines, the abortion industry will still continue. We may not reduce the number of abortions if we stop taking such vaccines or medicines, but this is not the issue. The problem lies in the moral weakening of our resistance to the crime of abortion, and to the crime of the trafficking, exploitation and commercialization of the body parts of murdered unborn children. The use of such vaccines and medicines in some way morally – albeit indirectly — supports this horrible situation. Observing the response from the Catholic Church, abortionists and those responsible for biomedical research will conclude that the hierarchy has acquiesced to this situation, which includes an entire chain of crimes against life and indeed can aptly be described as a “chain of death.” We have to wake up to the real dangers, consequences and circumstances of the current situation.

Theories justifying the use of abortion-tainted vaccines

The documents of the Holy See (from 2005, 2008 and 2020) that deal with vaccines developed from cell lines originating from murdered unborn children are not infallible decisions of the Magisterium. The arguments put forth in the aforementioned documents regarding the moral licitness of the use of abortion-tainted vaccines are ultimately too abstract. We need to approach this problem in a more profound way, and not remain in a juridical positivism and formalism of abstract theories of cooperation with evil, benefiting from the evil deeds of others, double effect or whatever one wishes to call such justifying theories.

We have to go deeper, down to the root, and consider the aspect of proportionality. This concrete chain of horrible crimes — of murdering, harvesting tissue and body parts from murdered unborn children, and commercializing their remains through the manufacturing and testing of vaccines and medicines — is out of all proportion to other crimes, e.g. benefitting from slave labor, paying taxes, etc. Even the most apparently impressive historical examples, which are sometimes adduced to justify the moral licitness of the use of abortion-tainted vaccines, are incomparable to the issue before us. Indeed, due to the gravity of abortion, and the current reality of an ever-expanding abortion and biomedical research industry, which involves the trafficking and exploitation of aborted baby body parts, the principle of material cooperation, or other similar theories, cannot be applied in this case. It is, therefore, highly anti-pastoral and counterproductive to allow the use of abortion-tainted vaccines in this historical hour. The souls of the murdered babies, from whose body parts people are now benefiting through these medicines and vaccines, are living and have a name before God.

When one uses an abortion-tainted vaccine, one is standing directly and very personally before the vaccine syringe. In paying taxes, one is not directly and personally confronting the process of a specific abortion. A government is not asking you concretely to give your money to “this” concrete act of abortion now. The government often uses our money against our will. Therefore, the use of an abortion-tainted vaccine is a much more personal confrontation, and a much closer meeting, with the monstrous crimes involved in its production, than for instance paying taxes or benefiting from the evil acts of another person. Should the government tell a citizen directly and personally, “I am taking your money to pay for this concrete abortion,” one has to refuse, even if it means confiscation of one’s home and imprisonment.

In the first centuries, Christians paid taxes to a pagan government, knowing that it would use a portion of the tax revenue to finance idol worship. However, when the government asked Christians personally and individually to participate in the crime of idolatry, by burning just a small grain of incense before the statue of an idol, they refused even at the price of being martyred for bearing witnesses to God’s First Commandment.

The exceptionally grave and unique character of abortion-tainted vaccines and medicines

How can we, with a maximum of determination, be and proclaim to be against abortion, when we accept abortion-tainted vaccines — when their origin lies in the murder of a child? Both logic and common-sense demand that we not accept such vaccines or medicines. In difficult times of great confusion, God often uses the simple and the little ones who tell the truth while the majority swims with the tide. Unfortunately, many people in the Church, and even some Catholic pro-life organizations, are swimming with the tide on the specific question of abortion-tainted vaccines and medicines. It seems that many theologians, and even the Holy See, as well as the vast majority of bishops, are also swimming with the tide, and there remains only a minority in the Church of our day which is saying, “Stop. This is not good. This is a danger!” As Christians, it is our duty to bear witness to the world by not accepting these vaccines and medicines.

One might ask the proponents of the moral licitness of the use of abortion-tainted vaccines or medicines the following question, “If you traveled back in time and witnessed the gruesome murder of an unborn child, the dismemberment of his body, the harvesting of his tissue, and his cells then processed in the lab, even if there were hundreds of chemical processes involved with that particular vaccine or medicine, could you with a clear conscience receive such a vaccine or medicine into your body? It is hard to imagine that you could, as you would have before your eyes the scene of a child being dismembered and you now physically benefiting from the use of his cells.”

Vaccines that utilize cell lines originating from aborted fetuses only for testing

The distinction is made between the direct presence of fetal cell lines originating from the murder of an unborn child in a vaccine and their use in testing, and certainly the latter is objectively less grave. But we still cannot accept the use of these cell lines even for testing, as it brings us closer to the crime of marketing the cells from murdered babies. In this case, too, there is an accumulation of horrible crimes. The first crime is to have killed a child. The second is to have used and processed these cell lines. To then use these cell lines for testing is yet another crime. We cannot collaborate in this accumulation of crimes and we cannot benefit in any way from their “by-products.”

The obligation to resist

Let us imagine the possibility of abortion being entirely forbidden worldwide. Were this the case, the medical and pharmaceutical industries would then have to seek out alternatives to develop a vaccine, and God will provide them if we observe His law, specifically the Fifth Commandment. However, God will punish us if we use the cell lines originating from murdered babies to manufacture and test vaccines and medicines! We have to open ourselves to a more supernatural perspective. We have to resist the myth that there is no alternative — and by using these vaccines or medicines, we cooperate in further propagating this myth. Yet, there are alternatives! The anti-Christian world powers will surely not admit that alternatives exist, and will continue to push abortion-tainted vaccines. But we must resist. Even if there is only a small minority of faithful, priests and bishops who do so, ultimately the truth will prevail. History will look back and say that even some good Catholics yielded, even high-ranking prelates responsible for the governance of the Holy See yielded to an expanding biomedical and pharmaceutical industry that used cell lines originating from the murder of unborn children to produce and test vaccines and medicines. History will say they allowed themselves to be blinded by abstract theories of remote material cooperation, benefiting from the evil acts of others, or other similar theories.

We have to follow the truth. Even if we lose all our friends, we should follow our conscience, as did Saint Thomas More and Saint John Fisher. It is also a sign of the end times that even good people are confused about this important matter. Let us recall the words of Our Lord, who said that even the elect will be also seduced (cf. Mt. 24:24). A time will come when God will reveal to people in the Church, who now defend the morality of using abortion-tainted vaccines, some of the consequences of this choice. Their eyes will be opened, because the truth is so powerful. We have to live for the truth and for eternity.

To remain silent and to acquiesce to the already widespread use of aborted baby body parts for biomedical research, and to argue away this injustice with an abstract theory of “remote material cooperation,” or whatever one may call such a justifying theory, is a spiritual blindness and grave omission at a dramatic historical moment when Christians instead should stand up and proclaim to the whole world, “We will never acquiesce to this injustice, even if it is already so widespread in medicine! It is not allowed to treat unborn children, the lives of the weakest and most defenseless people in the whole world, in such a degrading way, so that the stronger, those already born, may receive a temporal health benefit from their use.”

Ivan Karamazov in Dostoyevsky’s famous novel “The Brothers Karamazov” asks the fatal question: “Tell me straight out, I call on you—answer me: imagine that you yourself are building the edifice of human destiny with the object of making people happy in the finale, of giving them peace and rest at last, but for that you must inevitably and unavoidably torture just one tiny creature, that same child who was beating her chest with her little fist, and raise your edifice on the foundation of her unrequited tears—would you agree to be the architect on such conditions?“

Memorable are the words with which Pope John Paul II forcefully condemned any experimentation on embryos, declaring: “No circumstance, no purpose, no law whatsoever can ever make licit an act which is intrinsically illicit, since it is contrary to the Law of God which is written in every human heart, knowable by reason itself, and proclaimed by the Church. This evaluation of the morality of abortion is to be applied also to the recent forms of intervention on human embryos which, although carried out for purposes legitimate in themselves, inevitably involve the killing of those embryos. This is the case with experimentation on embryos, which is becoming increasingly widespread in the field of biomedical research and is legally permitted in some countries. Although ‘one must uphold as licit procedures carried out on the human embryo which respect the life and integrity of the embryo and do not involve disproportionate risks for it, but rather are directed to its healing, the improvement of its condition of health, or its individual survival,’ it must nonetheless be stated that the use of human embryos or fetuses as an object of experimentation constitutes a crime against their dignity as human beings who have a right to the same respect owed to a child once born, just as to every person. This moral condemnation also regards procedures that exploit living human embryos and fetuses-sometimes specifically ‘produced’ for this purpose by in vitro fertilization — either to be used as ‘biological material’ or as providers of organs or tissue for transplants in the treatment of certain diseases. The killing of innocent human creatures, even if carried out to help others, constitutes an absolutely unacceptable act.” (Encyclical Evangelium vitae, 62-63)

The blood of murdered unborn children cries to God from vaccines and medicines which utilize their remains in any manner whatsoever. We have to make reparation for the accumulated crimes involved in their production. We have to ask pardon not only from God, who searches the reins and hearts (cf. Rev. 2:23), but also from the souls of all murdered unborn children, who have a name before God. We must especially ask pardon from those children whose body parts are used in such a degrading way for the health benefit of the living. It is incomprehensible how churchmen, with the aid of abstract theories from moral theology, can tranquilize the conscience of the faithful, by allowing them to use such vaccines and medicines.

The blood of the murdered unborn children cries to God from abortion-tainted vaccines and medicines! May the Lord have mercy on us! Kyrie, eleison!

+ Athanasius Schneider, Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana


TOPICS: Apologetics; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathvaxxes; deepstate; fakepandemic; garbagevaccine; infanticide; innocentblood; kooks; mengele; morbid; nuts; satanicmedicine; scamdemic
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To: Jamestown1630

“Do you have a problem with nuclear chain reaction, and do you boycott everything that you probably enjoy that stems from that energy production?”
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner of the most Ludicrous post of the day, month, year, decade...
Talk about a Strawman argument. This stupidity takes the grand prize. The number of people killed by the only nuclear attacks in history is DWARFED by the number of unborn innocent babies killed in one year via Abortion.


21 posted on 04/05/2021 8:43:38 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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To: ocrp1982

And that has WHAT to do with the Covid-19 vaccines?

I’m still waiting for some facts and science here.


22 posted on 04/05/2021 8:46:59 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630
It's simple.

Read the article again. This time with a little comprehension.

Any vaccine developed with the help of the murder of babies.

And that includes every Covid "vaccine" that is currently on the market.

23 posted on 04/05/2021 8:47:05 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Jamestown1630
And that has WHAT to do with the Covid-19 vaccines?

Oh, so now you're finally admitting you whole concern is defending the abortion-tainted Covid-19 vaccines only.

So your the whole argument about all vaccines was a dishonest one.

Why am I not surprised?

24 posted on 04/05/2021 8:52:19 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Jamestown1630

“And that has WHAT to do with the Covid-19 vaccines?”
LMAO. You are the moron that brought up the Nuclear equivalency tripe. Then, you have the nerve to come back and ask what that has to do with vaccines? You are either drunk or just plain stupid. Either way a conversation with you is a waste of time.
If you are perfectly fine with Abortion and Scientific research as a result of Abortion you will have to answer for that position one day. Not to me. But, to a far far higher power than I. Good Bye.


25 posted on 04/05/2021 8:53:50 PM PDT by ocrp1982
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To: ebb tide

Damn; you still can’t come up with any facts pertinent to the sense of your own post.

I’m really bored with you, and I’m going to sleep. Here’s a lullaby, dear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSdnZAlS4vc&list=RDDSdnZAlS4vc&index=1


26 posted on 04/05/2021 8:55:03 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: ocrp1982

Huh.

You seem to be wasting a lot of your own time responding to Moron Me...and you also appear to have very little cognitive ability to follow a thread from beginning to end...

G’Nite!


27 posted on 04/05/2021 8:57:39 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

I don’t know how pro-aborts can sleep at night.


28 posted on 04/05/2021 9:12:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Jamestown1630

“Sense” of my post?

You’re the one reading what’s not there.


29 posted on 04/05/2021 9:27:58 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: redcatcherb412

I don’t care if it was from a baby murdered 100 yrs ago, It got its start from a baby. I think God would agree


30 posted on 04/05/2021 9:46:28 PM PDT by roving
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To: ebb tide

The vaccine industry has been evil for a long long time


31 posted on 04/05/2021 10:01:46 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (Fraud !!! Now we’re off the TRUMP TRAIN and on the Swamp express to communist hell !! TRUTH! )
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To: Jamestown1630; ebb tide
I like facts, and not propaganda, in the posts that I see here.

Well then, here you are:

The particular cells that are involved in the Johnson & Johnson vaccine are called PerC6 cells. "These are retinal cells that came from a fetus that was aborted in 1985 in the Netherlands, which were treated in the lab to allow them to reproduce in lab settings since that time," Barker explains.

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are different—they involve HEK293 cells, which also came from an aborted fetus in the Netherlands (in 1973). These cells have also been reproducing in lab settings since that time, Barker says.

The mRNA of the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines is not made in the HEK293 cells, but the cells are used for testing of these vaccines in early steps of studying the vaccines. "Specifically, the mRNAs are first put into these cells to ensure that the mRNA has no toxicity and is safe," Barker says. "The mRNAs are also put into these cells to make sure that it leads to the production of the correct protein (in this case, the Spike protein from SARS-CoV2)."

One the other hand, the PerC6 cells are used in making the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

"It's an inactivated virus vectored vaccine, which means that it is a disabled virus called adenovirus 26 that contains the DNA to make the Spike protein in addition to some portions of the adenovirus genome," Barker explains. "In order to make the vaccine, the scientists give PerC6 cells DNA so that they can make the parts of the virus and build that molecular machine—basically the PerC6 cells are the factories that make the vaccine for us."

Barker adds that viruses and viral vectors can't be made in a test tube (like the mRNA vaccines are), so they have to be made in some kind of cell. "PerC6 cells are the commonly used cells in the adenovirus vector field for making viruses and is known for being safe and reliable." Also, human cells have to be used for this process, because they're the only ones that contain the correct sugars to add to the proteins.

A 2015 report from the Congressional Research Service explains that "cultured cells mimic many of the properties that they have in a living body, and therefore can be used as a model for researchers studying basic biological processes."

"These cells (especially HEK293 cells) have been used in the lab to make many different vaccines and many biologic drugs like drugs for rheumatoid arthritis and cystic fibrosis," Barker says.


Going to be interesting to see how you refute this. What your excuse will be.
32 posted on 04/05/2021 10:05:39 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: roving

As stated .. Confusing.


33 posted on 04/05/2021 10:10:46 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: ebb tide

APRIL FOOLS!


34 posted on 04/06/2021 10:43:46 AM PDT by PTBobW (Very minor side effects for me with J&J)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m wondering if you are going to be vaccinated.

And whether, if you suffered this disease in the extreme that others have, you’d advocate for your children to be vaccinated - or not.

Henrietta Lacks and her family were certainly victimized in a ‘cellular’ way for the purpose of medical research. I would suggest that many people here have benefited from the data that Lacks’ cells have supplied over decades.

But I don’t see much discussion of that, here.


35 posted on 04/06/2021 5:51:06 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: ebb tide

You seem to be suggesting that medical research is the ‘driver’ of abortion.

There is one person - possibly two - who are ultimately responsible for abortion: the mother who decides to undergo it, and/or the father who pressures her into it.

Except in some obscure cases, mostly long in the past, those are the people responsible. (You might also add the people who made this a Federal issue rather than leaving it as a State one; but ultimately it’s the parents who are responsible.)

I don’t condone abortion - I despise it. But I also despise capital punishment, which I see a lot of anti-abortion people promote vigorously.

Human Life is Human Life, to me; and I don’t care what ‘stage’ of life it is.

And I don’t hold those who may use the byproducts of human life - which are going to ashes and from which Spirit and Soul are gone, for using those in the hopes of doing some GOOD in the world.


36 posted on 04/06/2021 6:17:25 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

I’ve suggested no such thing.

The fact is that drug companies are profiting from the abortion industry. They pay money for murdered babies organs and reap thousandfold profits from those murders.

I’m sorry you wont acknowledge that.

If you run across a hit and run victim, just killed, would you take the cash out his wallet?


37 posted on 04/06/2021 6:28:52 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

You know, if you spent all of the time you spend here actually trying to reverse Roe V. Wade on the political stage, you might actually accomplish something.

As it is, all you seem to be doing here is trying to frighten people, through a kind of moral ostracization, away from what may be a life-saving vaccine. (So much for Life.)

Do you care about THOSE lives? Or do you think that your subjective religious beliefs are more important than the human lives of others?

I think you have a very narrow, tunnel-visioned approach to all of this. (And I bet you vote the same muddle-minded way...)


38 posted on 04/06/2021 6:50:54 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

I don’t care what you think about me.

But I think you’re just fine with the murder of babies, if it means LIFE for YOU. To hell with the babies.


39 posted on 04/06/2021 6:55:25 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Jamestown1630

More babies have died from abortion than the people who have died from Covid.

But who cares, right?


40 posted on 04/06/2021 6:59:17 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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