Jehovah’s Witnesses Leader: COVID-19 Signals the “Last Day of the Last Days” rapture

Patheos ^ | 20 march | He meant mehta

[Cronos]

In case you’re wondering how some religions are coping with the outbreak of COVID-19, just look to the Jehovah’s Witnesses to see how absurd reactions can get.

In a recent video featuring Governing Body member Stephen Lett, he absolutely delights in the disease because he sees it as a signal that Armageddon is imminent.

So the events unfolding around us are making clear, [more] than ever, that we’re living in the final part of the Last Days. Undoubtedly, the final part of the final part of the Last Days, shortly before the last day of the Last Days.

[Elsie]

Resistance is futile.

[Elsie]

So which is it?

If you even look at a woman with lust...

WHERE?

[Elsie]

Those are complex questions.

I doubt anyone who cannot figure out what "call no man father" means would not be able to understand my answers.

[Philsworld]

Barnes's Notes: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin - This passage must either mean that they who are born of God, that is, who are true Christians, do not sin habitually and characteristically, or that everyone who is a true Christian is absolutely perfect, and never commits any sin. If it can be used as referring to the doctrine of absolute perfection at all, it proves, not that Christians may be perfect, or that a "portion" of them are, but that all are. But who can maintain this? Who can believe that John meant to affirm this? Nothing can be clearer than that the passage has not this meaning, and that John did not teach a doctrine so contrary to the current strain of the Scriptures, and to fact; and if he did not teach this, then in this whole passage he refers to those who are habitually and characteristically righteous.

BUSTED!

[Cronos]

If the questions are too complex for you, let’s try and simplify them

The questions are:

1. If a person is Bjorn again, are they incapable of sinning in your opinion?

Or

2. When they sin it is their body which does it, not the person himself (mhgs position)

Or

3. When they sin it is their soul which does it, not the person himself (mets position)

So which is it?

[metmom]

That was my thought, too.

People not only don’t understand grace, they don’t understand forgiveness either.

[Philsworld]

Wouldn’t it be something if you and your gaggle of “learned experts” were wrong about everything? The smartest people in the room and all wrong? No, that couldn’t happen, right? Well it did when Jesus showed up on this earth AND ALL THE EXPERTS WERE WRONG. I think history is repeating itself.

[Cronos]

So - are you saying
1. A BJorn again person can sin?
OR
2. Their body sins but they say “It wasn’t me - just my body who sinned”
OR
3. Their soul sins but they say “It wasn’t me - just my soul who sinned”

Which one of those 3 are your positions?

[Cronos]

Elsie “Resistance is futile” — so you are saying that for you resisting sin is futile, but then do you
1. Say “it wasn’t me - just my body”
OR
2. Say “it wasn’t me - just my soul”

That would make a great shaggy song — “Bjorn again wasn’t me! Just my body/soul that done sinned”

[Elsie]

I connected more dots to come up with RIF.

1. Typo - Bjorn
2. thought - Bjorn Borg
3. Link - Star Trek the Borg
4. Borg mission statement - “Resistance is Futile”

[Philsworld]

That seems to be a core doctrine but not one of them can give a straight answer.

They are BUSTED!

[caww]

I figured you too! Ha!...... And I wouldn’t have it any other way. Walking with the Lord is the ONLY way!

[Cronos]

So you think it is futile for bjorn against to resist sin because they can then say “it wasn’t me - just my body/soul”?

[Cronos]

I don’t think it is a core doctrine, just a typo

Caww is more reasonable - caww is it a core doctrine that “if a born again person sins, it is not the person itself just the person’s body/soul that sins?”

[Cronos]

It wasn't me - just my body/soul that done sinned

[MHGinTN]

Was it David who wrote blessed is he to whom God does not recognize his sin?

[SouthernClaire]

Have they never read:

Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

[Cronos]

Psalm 32 says "Blessed is the one whose fault is removed, whose sin is forgiven."

Having the sin being forgiven is different from "it wasn't me, just my body/soul"

David saw that he sinned - he didn't blame it on his weakness of flesh.

Be humble, repent of your sins, believe, be baptised, eat of His body and endure to the end - that's what Jesus says saves you through the Grace freely given by God through the sacrifice of Jesus, the Word of God

[Cronos]

And Saint Paul doesn’t pass the buck that “it wasn’t me, just my body/soul that done sinned”

[MHGinTN]

Do you believe what Paul wrote in several passages in different ways that it is GOD WHO is in the born again Christians? Ask in the mind of your soul, can God sin?

God has Promised that His seed abides in the spirit of the born again. And John tells us that where the seed of God abides THAT aspect of the born again members of The Body of Christ CANNOT sin.

When you die, does the soul of mind emotion and will commit sin thereafter? The answer to that question COULD lead you to stop mocking, deriding, and badgering, and to begin contemplating just what The Grace of God entails in making a sinless part to which He will add to a future body AND behavior mechanism which will not and cannot sin because The Seed of God-Life abides IRREVOCABLY therein, forever.