Posted on 02/12/2021 5:17:40 PM PST by ebb tide
A battle over Holy Communion is brewing between German bishops and the Vatican. In the latest exchange between the Holy See and a German ecumenical study group known by its acronym ÖAK, Cdl. Kurt Koch, the Holy See's chief ecumenist, doubled down in an open letter (Monday) to Tübingen professor Volker Leppin.
Leppin had lamented what he called the cardinal's "brusque dismissal" of his ecumenical group's proposal for an intercommunion free-for-all. Leppin is the director of the Protestant section of ÖAK, which the Vatican, last September, blasted for proposing in a study of "reciprocal Eucharistic hospitality" between Catholics and Protestants.
The Vatican is intervening because the ÖAK study received a green light in May from the German bishops' conference. The majority of German bishops have been working during the current pontificate to steer the Church down Der Synodale Weg, the so-called Synodal Way or Synodal Path, an agenda to have the Church admit non-Catholics to Holy Communion, normalize homosexuality and ordain women.
Cardinal Reinhard Marx admitted in a press conference in 2019 that the Synodal Path is a first step, a discussion intended to conclude in Germany and head to the Vatican: "The synodal path goes on to Rome."
And according to German bishop Georg Bätzing, Pope Francis is amenable. Bätzing said in June he felt strengthened by an exchange with the pontiff: "The pope appreciates this project, which he associates closely with the concept of 'synodality,' which he coined."
Father Ralph Wiltgen wrote a history of Vatican II titled The Rhine Flows Into the Tiber discussing the role of German prelates in pushing for a "new direction." They've never stopped pushing.
Ping
Has Francis joined the transsexual priest/nun creep show? As I see it if a priest decides to change over he has to trade in the robes for a habit and vice versa.
They will receive what they think will be Our Lord, if they believe it.
That will leave us faithful to find faithful priests.
It all comes down to Transubstantiation.
If you believe it, you cannot offer The Holy Eucharist to a non-Catholic.
If you do not believe it, you are not Catholic.
Unholy Communion, maybe.
Martin Luther told you so.
I will pray for you.
Jn 10:26
According to standard Lutheran doctrine the real presence of Christ is received in, with, and under the bread and the wine. The scripture says on the night in which He was betrayed, Jesus took the bread, broke it, face to his disciples and said This is my body, given for you. In the same way after supper He took the cup blessed it and said Take and drink this is the new covenant in my blood which is shed for you, for the forgiveness of sins.
It is scripturally accurate to accept the real presence of the body and blood of Christ in with and under the bread and wine.
Standard catholic liturgy also states in the Eucharistic feast Christ is again sacrificed. This is not scriptural as the Holy a scripture states Christ was sacrificed once for the atonement of mans sin.
It is the will of God that all believers shall participate fully in the gifts of salvation. While we are admonished that whosever eats and drinks with false heart brings judgment on himself, Gods perfect will is that all believers in Him participate in the fullness of salvation and the sacraments.
Then why did Jesus Christ instruct His apostles to continue the sacrificial offering?
After all, men still sin, and souls are probably still going to Hell.
As this is a matter of faith I am truly saying this with all due respect to your understanding of the faith as well.
In the scripture is says “Do this in memory of me”. It also says as long as you eat of this bread and drink of this cup you proclaim the death (and resurrection) until He comes again
One of the words on the cross Chris says is “it is finished” meaning the work of salvation and His sacrifice.
I truly do look forward to your insights and thoughts I think it truly helps gain insight into the holy catholic and apostolic church.
That the Sacrifice of the Mass is propitiatory both for the living and the dead.
And forasmuch as, in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the mass, that same Christ is contained and immolated in an unbloody manner, who once offered Himself in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross; the holy Synod teaches, that this sacrifice is truly propritiatory and that by means thereof this is effected, that we obtain mercy, and find grace in seasonable aid, if we draw nigh unto God, contrite and penitent, with a sincere heart and upright faith, with fear and reverence. For the Lord, appeased by the oblation thereof, and granting the grace and gift of penitence, forgives even heinous crimes and sins. For the victim is one and the same, the same now offering by the ministry of priests, who then offered Himself on the cross, the manner alone of offering being different. The fruits indeed of which oblation, of that bloody one to wit, are received most plentifully through this unbloody one; so far is this (latter) from derogating in any way from that (former oblation). Wherefore, not only for the sins, punishments, satisfactions, and other necessities of the faithful who are living, but also for those who are departed in Christ, and who are not as yet fully purified, is it rightly offered, agreebly to a tradition of the apostles.
Council of Trent
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