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Pope says money at root of opposition to annulment reform
National Cathollic Reporter ^ | January 29, 2021 | Junno Arocho Esteves

Posted on 01/29/2021 5:21:49 PM PST by ebb tide

Pope says money at root of opposition to annulment reform

Vatican City — The potential loss of money and authority are often at the heart of the opposition against reforming the Catholic Church's annulment process, Pope Francis said.

Departing from his prepared remarks during a Jan. 29 meeting with members of the Roman Rota, a tribunal handling mostly marriage cases, the pope said that after implementing reforms that streamlined annulments in 2015, he "received many letters" and encountered "so much resistance."

"Almost all of them were lawyers who were losing clients. And therein lies the problem of money," he said. "In Spain, there is a saying, 'Por la plata baila el mono' — 'Monkeys will dance for money.' It is a saying that is clear."

The pope also said he was saddened to see "resistance in some dioceses by some judicial vicars who with this reform would lose, I don't know, a certain form of power because it became clear that he is not the judge, but the bishop is."

In September 2015, the pope issued two documents — "Mitis Iudex Dominus Iesus" ("The Lord Jesus, the Gentle Judge") for the Latin-rite church and "Mitis et misericors Iesus," ("The Meek and Merciful Jesus") for the Eastern Catholic churches — that reformed sections of canon law dealing with requests for the declaration of the nullity of a marriage.

The documents also emphasized that the annulment process be free of charge or as close to free as possible.

The reforms — which do away with an automatic appeal of all decisions, charge diocesan bishops with responsibility for handling some cases and institute an abbreviated process for cases where the evidence is especially clear and uncontested — were meant to streamline the process and help couples in need of healing.

Continuing to speak off-the-cuff, the pope recalled receiving a call from a bishop shortly after the promulgation of the reformed annulment process.

"He told me, 'I have this problem. There is a woman who wants to marry in the church; she was already married several years ago in the church, but she was forced to marry because she was pregnant. I have done everything: I asked a priest to serve as judicial vicar, another that served as defender of the bond. And the witnesses, the parents said yes, she was forced, and that marriage was null. Tell me, Holy Father, what should I do?'" the pope recalled.

"I asked him, 'Tell me, do you have a pen in hand?' — 'Yes.' — 'Sign it. You are the judge, without all the fuss.'"



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: adultery; catholicdivorce; francischism; heresy; homosexualagenda; serialslanderer
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The reforms — which do away with an automatic appeal of all decisions, charge diocesan bishops with responsibility for handling some cases and institute an abbreviated process for cases where the evidence is especially clear and uncontested — were meant to streamline the process and help couples in need of healing.

How does a fake annulment help in healing?

The Francis wants to pass out "annulments", without chance of appeal, like candy as do secular judges do with civil divorces.

1 posted on 01/29/2021 5:21:49 PM PST by ebb tide
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Barf Alert Ping


2 posted on 01/29/2021 5:22:34 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

To Marxists, all decisions are economic decisions.


3 posted on 01/29/2021 5:23:27 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: ebb tide

There are some cases which are really slam-dunk. Those should be expedited. The people need to be able to marry in the church.


4 posted on 01/29/2021 5:27:20 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: married21

While some of those cases certainly exist- that’s really not the problem with the current annulment system.


5 posted on 01/29/2021 5:31:06 PM PST by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: marktwain

It saved John Kerry a ton of money. Also left his child, born in that marriage, as a bastard.


6 posted on 01/29/2021 5:42:05 PM PST by Celerity
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To: ebb tide
Pope says money at root of opposition to annulment reform

Let's revoke Cafeteria Catholic Frank's Tax Exempt Status, tax him 25% of Church income worldwide, and ask him again, What's the Problem?

7 posted on 01/29/2021 5:46:29 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Celerity

“It saved John Kerry a ton of money. Also left his child, born in that marriage, as a bastard.”

Nope, neither in civil nor canon law is that true.


8 posted on 01/29/2021 5:50:23 PM PST by narses (Censeo praedatorium gregem esse delendum. (The gay lobby must be destroyed))
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To: married21
There are some cases which are really slam-dunk.

Care to give examples besides these below?

The most common annulments are granted due to the lack of canonical form, such as Catholics married by a justice of the peace or a non-Catholic minister, because canon law requires a Catholic priest or deacon with faculties to officiate the marriage.

Another common reason for annulments involves capacity, such as a civil marriage with someone who was not free to marry because of a prior marriage bond.

“In these cases, all you need are the documents to show that’s the case,” he said, explaining these were among the most clear-cut declarations of nullity for the Church to grant.

However, the third category of grounds for annulment — and the most involved processes for tribunals — are marriages involving consent, where one or both of the spouses did not intend to embrace all the goods of marriage: permanence, exclusivity or openness to children, for example.

And from 1982:

CATHOLICS GET RECORD NUMBER OF ANNULMENTS

9 posted on 01/29/2021 5:57:42 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Go by Jesus’ instructions. If coerced/forced/incestuous marriage you can get annulled.

Two Christians marrying that are sane, not directly related, and consent through their own volition can't get annulled. What is the problem/matter here?

10 posted on 01/29/2021 5:58:56 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: ebb tide

“Reforming,” I assume, means quickie divorce in Bergoglio speak.


11 posted on 01/29/2021 6:07:21 PM PST by livius
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To: ebb tide

Pope sez, “indulge me”.


12 posted on 01/29/2021 6:09:13 PM PST by Old Yeller (Nana Pelosi is a manure salesman with a mouthful of samples. Thus the slurred speaking.)
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To: married21
Annulment Nation

The United States, with 5.9 percent of the world’s Catholics, still accounts for 60 percent of the Church’s 58,322 declarations of nullity (2007 statistics in the Vatican Secretariat of State’s Statistical Yearbook of the Church). Of the 35,009 declarations of nullity granted in the US, 79 percent were granted through the ordinary process, while 21 percent were granted through the documentary process.

Bergolio wants to increase that percentage; and for those who are still awaiting or denied an annulment, they are free to sacrilegiously receive Holy Communion per his “merciful” Amoris Latitia.

13 posted on 01/29/2021 6:26:22 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Celerity

John Kerry is a bastard, but his child isn’t.


14 posted on 01/29/2021 6:28:38 PM PST by Romulus
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To: livius
“Reforming,” I assume, means quickie divorce in Bergoglio speak.

I agree with your assumption.

15 posted on 01/29/2021 6:29:23 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

The intention to use contraception is surely the most common.


16 posted on 01/29/2021 6:30:17 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus
The intention to use contraception is surely the most common.

Can you back that up with facts?

17 posted on 01/29/2021 6:32:23 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: rollo tomasi
If coerced/forced/incestuous marriage you can get annulled.

LOL if you have enough $$$$$$

18 posted on 01/29/2021 6:34:33 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
At times, Ted Kennedy got blocked along with a bunch of other wealthy people.

A protestant denomination began due to the RC Church not granting an annulment (Although a lot of political situations concerning that matter would have created a fecesstorm if the annulment was granted to Henry VIII).
19 posted on 01/29/2021 6:43:40 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: ebb tide

Well, I know of one case where the groom brought his girlfriend on the honeymoon. That would be an intent against unity and fidelity at the time of the exchange of vows.


20 posted on 01/29/2021 6:50:29 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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