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In came Latin, incense and burned books, out went half the parishioners
Natiional Catholic Reporter ^ | January 27, 2021 | Peter Feuerherd

Posted on 01/28/2021 5:30:10 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: fidelis

I wonder, if what you are saying is true, if it has to do with plasticity of English. A person trying to drive out demons using Latin may know the meaning of the terms but his mind doesn’t have to play the same inner word games as he would with English. The Demons may pick up on the energy being used to use the English terms correctly in proper context to give the exorcist a harder time. With Latin or Greek or Aramaic a person need be fasted and prayed up and cite the “ritual” words having a more precise knowledge as to what the words mean and how to say them and in what order.

Using English may invite the demons to simply argue if the exorcist really knows what “IS” is and if he truly knows what he is doing! Then again there is such thing as THE HOLY SPIRIT who is working behind the scene to drive the Demon out at the behest of the faithful priest or pastor...so in the end it probably doesn’t matter what language is being used. THE HOLY SPIRIT can translate any language into the blunt language the demons will understand and have to obey!


81 posted on 01/31/2021 4:57:32 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: stanne; wita; teppe
Sorry; I misremembered the TITLE.

PRAISE; not Hail...


(click)
Praise to the Man!
 
 
 
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


82 posted on 01/31/2021 5:06:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
HMMMmmm...

THIS reply was supposed to come before the last one?


I'll probably have thousands of Prot FReepers praying for me after this, but I find Ave Maria to be absolutely beautiful!
 
 
And this will fry FR's servers:
I find the LDS "Hail to the Man" to be a nice melody as well - the words; not so much; but...

83 posted on 01/31/2021 5:08:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mdmathis6
One MUST get the accent of the mumbo-jumbo of the incantations just right; or ELSE!!!


Acts 19:16-17

Eventually, one of the evil spirits answered them, “Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?”

Then the man with the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. The attack was so violent that they ran out of the house naked and wounded.

84 posted on 01/31/2021 5:11:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mdmathis6

Alex: Sorry; but you added an ‘ess’ to it, and we can’t accept your answer.

Contestant: Rats!


85 posted on 01/31/2021 5:13:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

That’s why I mentioned fasting and praying and the work of the Holy Spirit>

Paul’s simple blunt command to the lady of divination I believe was most eloquent in terms of brevity and specificity of purpose.”“I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” (And instantly it left her.)

I’ll bet he said it in Greek, not Latin!


86 posted on 01/31/2021 5:20:56 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Elsie

The men didn’t have the Holy Spirit so they were wide open for attack...no matter what mumbo jumbo they used.


87 posted on 01/31/2021 5:24:24 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: surroundedbyblue

Boone is not exactly a hot bed of Catholicism. I lived there for 5 years and couldn’t tell you where the Catholic church was. The church probably catered more to Floridians who came in the summer and that has waned in the last 20 years.


88 posted on 01/31/2021 5:27:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: Elsie

I hear the exorcist command prayer is most effective in original Klingon!


89 posted on 01/31/2021 5:27:51 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: daniel1212

“The most liberal ones are usually those which are closest to Catholicism.”

I can only wonder how one person can become so desperately, catastrophically wrong about so much, and that in the span of only one lifetime. Smells like supernatural evil.

Paging Mr. Dunning. Paging Mr. Kruger. Please collect your patient at the exit.


90 posted on 01/31/2021 12:27:33 PM PST by dsc (Evil doesn’t have a day job.)
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To: dsc
“The most liberal ones are usually those which are closest to Catholicism.” I can only wonder how one person can become so desperately, catastrophically wrong about so much, and that in the span of only one lifetime. Smells like supernatural evil. Paging Mr. Dunning. Paging Mr. Kruger. Please collect your patient at the exit.

Meaning per usual, due to absence of any valid argument of refutation and substantiation, you are reduced to mere fallacious vile ad hominem, thus once again providing testimony to why one should not be a Catholic. And it remains that “The most liberal [major] ones are usually those which are closest to Catholicism” from Anglicans to Episcopalians to most Lutherans and Methodists to Inclusive Orthodox to the Old Catholic Church to the Presbyterian Church to the UCC in contrast to fundamentalist/evangelicals - your major enemies.

91 posted on 01/31/2021 2:59:05 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: mdmathis6
The men didn’t have the Holy Spirit so they were wide open for attack...no matter what mumbo jumbo they used.

Acts 19:11-14 ESV

11 And God was doing extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, 12 so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.

13 Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists undertook to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “I adjure you by the Jesus whom Paul proclaims.”

14 Seven sons of a Jewish high priest named Sceva were doing this.


They must have had some success at their trade to be described as such.

92 posted on 01/31/2021 4:37:56 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

Study this article carefully, and try to gain some insight into your malfunctioning cognitive processes.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3920426/posts


93 posted on 01/31/2021 7:28:19 PM PST by dsc (Evil doesn’t have a day job.)
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To: dsc
Study this article carefully, and try to gain some insight into your malfunctioning cognitive processes.

More of the same desperate recourse, and thus more testimony against being a Catholic. Thank you.

94 posted on 01/31/2021 8:47:56 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

I wouldn’t discuss molecular biology with a garden slug. Why would I discuss theology with you?

Sometimes blind stupidity is so obnoxious that it provokes me to comment on it, that’s all.


95 posted on 02/01/2021 12:08:36 AM PST by dsc (Evil doesn’t have a day job.)
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To: dsc; daniel1212

Even a garden slug knows about the salt of the earth.

But I say unto you,
Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you,
do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them which despitefully use you.

Matthew 5:44 KJV


96 posted on 02/01/2021 4:09:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dsc
Pseudo-realities, being false and unreal ...

I await the Department of Redundancy Department to chime in on this one.

97 posted on 02/01/2021 4:12:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dsc; Elsie
I wouldn’t discuss molecular biology with a garden slug. Why would I discuss theology with you? Sometimes blind stupidity is so obnoxious that it provokes me to comment on it, that’s all.

Thank you one again for the further confirmation that being a Catholic should be avoided. All one has to do is post a manifest truth that impugns Catholicism and ad hominems are resorted to due to lack any substantiated argument to the contrary. And so I will leave you (if you will leave) with some wisdom from the mod that applies to your necessary recourse.

The demeanor of the poster says more about his own confession than the post says about yours....If the other guy is throwing spitwads at you on an “open” thread it probably means he has run out of ammunition. Take it as a backhanded compliment. You won, walk away.

Bye for now.

98 posted on 02/01/2021 11:15:18 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned + destitute sinner + trust Him to save + be baptized+follow Him!)
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To: Elsie

Pity, not at all. If you have difficulty understanding that Joseph Smith truly saw the Father and the Son, and the Book of Mormon is exactly what he said it was, you cannot reconcile Revelation from those who followed in Joseph’s footsteps.


99 posted on 02/01/2021 1:04:51 PM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Elsie

Pity, not at all. If you have difficulty understanding that Joseph Smith truly saw the Father and the Son, and the Book of Mormon is exactly what he said it was, you cannot reconcile Revelation from those who followed in Joseph’s footsteps.


100 posted on 02/01/2021 1:09:04 PM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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