Posted on 12/16/2020 11:12:23 AM PST by Gamecock
She is no spring chicken.
hmmm...
You think religious institutions should be in line for federal handouts?
Someone will open a few Madrassas and you might change your mind...
Either he is a runt, or she is an Amazon.
“...Abuses by mega-churches give the demonRATs ammunition to go after ALL churches....”
Exactly!!
There are thousands of churches across our nation that obey the law and carry out their calling without issue.
This kind of BS will end up with draconian government punishment etc. on all of em.
“...I wouldn’t call these entertainment halls churches.
Yeah...no kiddin’.
One has to use the term “church” rather loosely for some of these joints. Many are nothing more than a social gathering clubhouse with a little so-called religion/preaching tossed in just enough to meet the “church” definition.
On the flip side of that, there are some good, solid, Bible-believing churches that adhere to the principles given in the Word and teach/preach as such. They’re not out to fleece or harm anyone...just the opposite.
Most of the time, they’re usually scorned and ridiculed by the mainstream, but they’re out there doing what they feel called to do and actually trying to help people in need.
It’s wrong to “lump em all into one basket”, but that’s what usually happens. “A little leaven leavens the whole lump”.
“ FWIW, I’d be totally ashamed to call myself “Christian” and be taking government money like that.”
My (small) church took about $40K. We used it to pay our janitor, the part time employees who run an after school care program, sexton, organist, etc. We were very worried about revenues given shutdowns and small attendance. Thankfully our revenues have been nearly on par with a normal year, so that money is segregated in case we need to pay the loan back.
I know it’s easy to cite egregious examples like Osteen, but I believe there re many small churches with good governance who have benefited from PPP while adhering to their Christian principles.
There is a difference between (legal) Churches with buildings, property, assets, ...
and The Church, body of believers.
We have fostered the legal Church with tax advantages, deductions for contributions, etc. They take out loans to pay for their stuff. And sometimes take pride in it, to the point of creating an idol. Now this model is threatened by the Govt. And the believers may suffer along with it.
If you need a building (a sheep shed), rent it.
It feels like we are headed toward the New Testament form of Church, like the underground Church in China and in other persecuted countries.
Will the (remaining, true) believers reach more souls from a persecuted situation than ‘Churches’ do today?
Wow, look at her eyebrows compared to the younger pic.
They’ve been propped up like Nancy Pegrossi’s.
It looks like she has a picture of herself on the lamp table behind her. This prosperity gospel stuff guarantees big egos—the Almighty wants you to be successful and you’re not a sinner, you’re a little god capable of anything.
“...I believe there re many small churches with good governance who have benefited from PPP while adhering to their Christian principles....”
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and decision-making, for sure.
IMHO, taking money from the government opens up a door that a church will someday wish they’d never went thru.
Our own church is small as well. We never took a penny in govt. money and never will...the doors would be bolted shut first. And it got tough...real tough there for quite awhile. We learned real quick what it means to trust God, and with the Lord’s providence and a lot of prayer, we made it through the worst of it...at least so far.
FWIW, with what’s possibly coming down the road, NONE of em may survive as far as the buildings go.
We’re praying hard that it never happens, but if so, the true church is the believers within it, and it will survive as it always has throughout the ages...in spite of government closing edicts.
“....It feels like we are headed toward the New Testament form of Church, like the underground Church in China and in other persecuted countries.....”
THIS.
“...Will the (remaining, true) believers reach more souls from a persecuted situation than ‘Churches’ do today?...”
YES
I definitely respect your way of thinking. God bless your church, I hope you come out stronger on the other side of this!
They disgust me. But the bigger they are the harder they fall.
Karma will catch up to Mr. and Mrs. Grifter.
No it isn’t. The church we attend chose not to apply for this money.
You’re being RIDICULOUS!!!!
If she’s attracted to Joel, it’s cuz she’s bat-dollar CRAZY!!!
Paula White is married to Jonathan Cain, the keyboardist from the band “Journey”.
I understand many businesses took the loans because the interest rate was very good for restructuring, however churches should not be in debt. Borrower is slave to lender. In addition churches taking loans is a terrible witness.
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